Talk:Johan Åberg
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Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved per request. Favonian (talk) 18:36, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Johan Aberg → Johan Åberg – Spelling. 213.89.104.128 (talk) 09:56, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support, encyclopedia entries generally use correct diacritics even if less careful sources do not. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 17:24, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support per PT and extensive recent precedent. --BDD (talk) 19:11, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support. Aerospace1 (talk) 20:13, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support per his own website "This is how the Swedish songwriter and producer Johan Åberg defines a hit.", and all other en.wp Swedish Åbergs are at Åberg. Interestingly there's another Johan Åberg (b.1981) at eliteprospects, a hockey website which gets a lot of use on en.wp, but in this case the other Johan Åberg (b.1981) has no article. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:53, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- Comment - WP:DIACRITICS states the use of modified letters (such as accents or other diacritics) in article titles is neither encouraged nor discouraged. However it does mention about placing redirects at alternative titles, such as those with or without diacritics. The redirecting alternative would gain an overwhelming support from me. Wesley Mouse 01:31, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- Diacritics for some topics are more accepted than others. Check the bottom of the WP:RM backlog for a series of disputes about Vietnamese foods that, taken as a whole have little consensus. But more than half a dozen recent requests, usually in batches, regarding personal names have closed with clear consensus for including the diacritical marks. The way I see it, if a person's name is Åberg and you give it as Aberg, you've made a mistake. It may be a common mistake, sometimes due to typographical restrictions, but there's no good reason for an international encyclopedia to do so. Some take more nuanced positions. --BDD (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well that makes sense then, thanks. So this current name title would get the redirect to the proposed new title for those who don't know how to type diacritics using a bog standard keyboard? If that be so, then I would still stick to my decision of redirecting one into the other (which ever article name gets chosen as the main name). Wesley Mouse 04:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, there will be redirects either way, that's standard practice. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 16:15, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well that makes sense then, thanks. So this current name title would get the redirect to the proposed new title for those who don't know how to type diacritics using a bog standard keyboard? If that be so, then I would still stick to my decision of redirecting one into the other (which ever article name gets chosen as the main name). Wesley Mouse 04:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- Diacritics for some topics are more accepted than others. Check the bottom of the WP:RM backlog for a series of disputes about Vietnamese foods that, taken as a whole have little consensus. But more than half a dozen recent requests, usually in batches, regarding personal names have closed with clear consensus for including the diacritical marks. The way I see it, if a person's name is Åberg and you give it as Aberg, you've made a mistake. It may be a common mistake, sometimes due to typographical restrictions, but there's no good reason for an international encyclopedia to do so. Some take more nuanced positions. --BDD (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support per encyclopedic correctness. HandsomeFella (talk) 10:29, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support - now that my questions/comments have been answered and my mind put at ease, I too support the move with a redirect option too for those who are non-comprehensible about typing diacritics using an average keyboard. Wesley Mouse 10:32, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.