Talk:John 3:7 (sign)

Notable?

This sounds like a minor crime relevant on a local scale for a very short period of time. All of the news articles referenced are from within a few days of each other and not major news outlets. See Wikipedia:Notability, Wikipedia:Bombardment Foltor (talk) 22:15, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I believe it to be notable. It may be slightly slanted in favour of recent events but that is where the sources lie. The sign has disappeared twice and even without those disappearances it is recognisable to those with a not very large interest in the sport. It has been displayed at national-level events for several decades. A need for improvement is not a reason for deletion. I have added the Gaelic Games WikiProject in the hope that someone from there can improve the article. --candle•wicke 00:47, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Not a billboard

John 3:7 is not a billboard, it is a verse from the Gospel of John. Surely, whether the verse deserves an article of its own or not, it is the primary meaning of "John 3:7". Perhaps it should be redirected to John 3 or Born again (Christianity). Srnec (talk) 06:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

The article has since been moved by others. Art LaPella (talk) 23:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Where's the sign?

The image caption says "John 3:7 is often displayed during matches at stadiums such as Croke Park (above)", but I can't find the sign. If you're just showing an example of where that sign has been displayed in the past, that isn't very unique in the U.S. anyway; see Rollen Stewart for instance. Art LaPella (talk) 23:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I have. But what does the U.S. have to do with it? :) --candle•wicke 01:29, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

You have found the sign in the picture, or you have seen the sign in the park? Seeing such a sign (normally John 3:16) in a park on TV isn't very unique in my U.S. experience; does your question mean that it is unique in Ireland? Art LaPella (talk) 02:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

What I meant was I had not intended it to be US-centric. Something may be common in the US but it may not be common in Chile, Fiji, South Africa or Saudi Arabia and what of the reader who isn't interested in sports at all? I presented it in what I perceived or at least hoped to be the most neutral way possible without presuming that the reader encounters this every day and/or that the reader is American. I had never heard of Rollen Stewart before I found Category:Sports spectators and he was mentioned here but I imagine he must be have a more negative image than the subject of this article if his biography is accurate. I am not very familiar with figures such as Stewart, therefore I imagine there may be others in a similar situation. I have never seen John 3:7 in real life but on television and photos such as those in the sources. Had I done so I may have taken a better photo for here. ;) --candle•wicke 01:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I can explain those issues better depending on my original indirectly stated question: Did you find the sign in the picture? Art LaPella (talk) 01:28, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

The image has nothing to do with the sign and should be removed. It's as relevant as if it was included in an article with a caption saying 'these people have feet.' —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy Johnston (talk • contribs) 19:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree that the picture should be deleted as being irrelevant Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 20:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Deleted for being irrelevant? --candle•wicke 21:24, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

No, it should not be deleted as it's used in other articles. But it should be removed from this one as it is irelevant to the subject. Andy Johnston (talk) 23:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

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