Talk:Jon Miller
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Mock indignation
editI don't know what I think about the phrase "mock indignation" in this article. I've heard that call many times, and I don't think there was anything "mock" about it. Miller seemed legitimately pissed off. Jcb9 03:29, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Apparently, some comments in this article are a bit subjective. I agree that, in that particular instance, there was no mock indignation. Although Jon Miller may joke around between calling plays, he seems genuinely indignant when players appear to make dumb mistakes on the field. Montira warran 16:26, 19 June 2007 (UTC)Montira warran
First and foremost, Jon Miller is a baseball fan. He has stated this many times, so when he sounds befuddled or irritated at the outcome of a particular play on the field, that's the baseball fan you're hearing. He's so polished that it might come off as disingenuous to the uninitiated listener, but those of us who have been privileged to listen to Jon Miller through the years know better. No "mockery" about it. Boteman (talk) 04:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Pronounciation
edit"Jon Miller, on occasion, will uniquely pronounce certain players' names. For example, when pronouncing Carlos Beltran he tends to put the majority of emphasis on the "A" of Beltran."
Well, Miller must know Spanish, because that is the way Beltrán is pronounced in Spanish (note the accent mark).
- Or he just learned it phonetically ... Rabbethan 11:58, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
I think Miller probably is proficient is Spanish--he seems to be well-versed in many things. If he's not though, he should be commended for making the effort to learn. 64.162.84.189 16:08, 19 June 2007 (UTC)Montira warran
Miller most definitely IS proficient in Spanish. Back in the late 1990s, when the Orioles had begun what has since become a streak of ten consecutive losing seasons, Miller was broadcasting a mid-September game with then-partner, Joe Angel. A goodly portion of the roster was out due to injuries, end-of-season replacements were up from the minors and filling many positions, and the O's were losing another game in the late innings, with nothing seeming to go right. Miller and Angel began an inning in Spanish... and continued to call the entire inning in that language, with the play-by-play, color commentary, and back-and-forth banter all in Spanish. It was hilarious.
- As the daughter of two non-hispanic Spanish teachers, I've always appreciated non-hispanics who pronounce Spanish names correctly. Miller is a rarity in this respect. Does anyone know his background, i.e., how he came to be so proficient? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.200.177.10 (talk) 22:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Miller has often used the off-season to study items that may inform his broadcasting. He's studied Spanish, Japanese, anatomy & read on physics as it related to baseball (sometimes saying that at batter hit a ball at the bat's "center of percussion" when he really whacks one). I remember first noting Miller's correct pronunciation of Spanish when he altered his pronunciation of the Orioles' Leo (LEH-oh) Gomez. It should also be noted that Miller actually asks the players how to pronounce their names. He does his homework. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.157.57.215 (talk) 03:45, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Pennant-clinching call
editI'm not convinced that Miller said "it's wide". I always thought it was "it's off line"; though, to be fair, he *was* completely drowned out by Kruk & Kuip hollering in the background... Js farrar 02:05, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
-Why is this call listed as trivia?
Pronunciation - Felipe Alou
editRegarding the section on Miller's proper pronunciation of Spanish names - a couple of years back, Miller started to correctly pronounce Felipe Alou's last name (as I recall, it was something like "Al-oh" rather than the usual "Al-ew") but had to stop after a few games because non-Spanish speaking fans were confused and didn't know who he was talking about. I think this would be worth mentioning in the pronunciation section, but a quick Google search failed to turn up any sources. Does anyone know of any articles mentioning this? Jcb9 01:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Jon Miller is a standout by making the effort to pronounce names as their owners intend. I imagine the fans who are critical of this are accustomed to the lazy broadcasters who can't be bothered. I imagine that there exist few sources of attribution for many of the speculative or "original research" portions of this article. I expect the bulk of them exist as audio clips of interviews which do not lend themselves to citation, and very likely suffer under copyright restrictions anyway. Boteman (talk) 03:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Other Projects
editPublished by Simon & Schuster, in 1998, Confessions of a Baseball Purist, was released, written with great intelligence and wit by Jon Miller with Mark Hyman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.27.133.141 (talk) 22:26, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Jeffrey Maier Call
editThe page about Jeffrey Maier includes both the text and audio of Miller's call of the disputed home run. It's the call I most associate with Miller, so I nominate it for inclusion in this page. (I was driving around Fairfax, VA during the call, and Miller's outrage was so palpable that I found the nearest sports bar to see it for myself.)209.131.62.115 (talk) 05:58, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
copypaste help
editCan someone spot this article against [1]? Some of the paragraphs are identical, but I can't tell which one came first. -AngusWOOF (talk) 18:57, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- I am going to remove the copyvio notice. I believe that the Wiki version came first and the pbspeakers version was copied from here. Firstly, the version on pbspeakers.com has been removed. Second, the text of the Wiki article was added by multiple different authors over many months/years (instead of being copy/pasted en masse), which leads me to believe that the Wiki version came first. Here are a few diffs showing when pieces of text were first added:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jon_Miller&diff=153216720&oldid=152315282
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jon_Miller&diff=149910585&oldid=149678402
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jon_Miller&diff=150326545&oldid=150326316
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jon_Miller&diff=152001601&oldid=151717476
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jon_Miller&diff=227506889&oldid=226765627
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jon_Miller&type=revision&diff=246039215&oldid=241000394
- Thanks for digging into this! AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
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