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editBefore deleting this page please check out the references to Joseph (Joe) in the books on the following page:
http://www.google.co.uk/books?q=joe+grossman+elstree&btnG=Search+Books
Joe was also a relative of mine (my grandfather's cousin) so some information is from family recollections.
Hduncan mwe 22:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I have corrected the birth-date of Joe Grossman (my maternal great-uncle) and added a sample of information from 'A Tribute to Joe Grossman' published by his employer, ABC Film Studios, in January 1949. Some sources cite a birth-date of '1889', probably because this is when the birth was registered. I have not found a source for the story that Bill Grossman died in a magic trick accident. His grandson was not aware of this history whern I asked him. Wadebridge (talk) 23:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)