Talk:Juice box
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On 20 April 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Juicebox (container) to Juicebox. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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editPrima's is not a common name for tetra packed fruit drinks. I have never heard it called that at all. Poppers is a very common name for them and not just in NSW but all over the country.
#Prima is a brand name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.51.167.131 (talk) 06:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
A Little History
editThe history of the juice box needs to be modified to take account of other countries such as here in Australia.
- Although this article says that juice boxes were officially introduced into the US market in 1980, I remember them being available in Australia earlier than that. I bought my first one around September or October 1978 or 1979, most likely 1979. However, I don't know excatly when they were introduced, it couldn't have been much earlier than that.
- The article says that juice boxes were initially primarily made up of diluted fruit drink in the early. However, here in Australia, juice boxes with fruit drink (containing 25%-35% fruit juise) and juice boxes with 100% fruit juice were both widely available in early 1980.
- Popper was a brand of juice box available in Australia made by Pauls. This could have been where the term popper originated from. I saw the first one in January 1980.
- To answer a previous discussion topic, Prima was another brand of juice box availble in Australia. I had my first one in February 1980 if not earlier. Prima may have been mainly available in Victoria and Popper in New South Wales initially, though this is my anecdotal experience only.
- There was another type of compact fruit juice container which was more like a pouch with a flat bottom made mainly of aluminium, possibly with a plastic coating. The aluminium was thicker than foil but thinner than a can. It was used in Israel for fruit juice sold under the Tropit brand and was available in March 1981. If there is an article about this kind of juice container then it should be included in a See Also section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lironl (talk • contribs) 17:09, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
The photo is of a box of soju. Perhaps show a photo of a children's juice box and maybe add a discussion on its worldwide use with other drinks such as soju.
Requested move 20 April 2023
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 12:57, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
– The juicebox, being a commonly used everyday object, I argue is the primary topic because the other things on the juicebox dab are pieces of media with "juicebox" in it. The only thing on the dab that somewhat competes with this for primary topic status is Juice Box, but this not an issue because of already-existing natural disambiguation. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 14:49, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- support clear wp:primarytopic—blindlynx 15:20, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:32, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Move to Juice box per WP:NATURAL. The song gets almost as many pageviews as the container, so the container is not the primary topic for "juicebox" but it is the primary topic for "juice box" (which is how it's written in the article anyway). Station1 (talk) 18:52, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Huh. I hadn’t noticed that because oddly enough, that article doesn’t even appear on a WikiNav analysis of the DAB. I support this, but I also reaffirm my support for my title, as I still think the container is the primary topic in the "long term significance" category. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 19:05, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:40, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support 1st per nom, (moving to juice box, not juicebox), however oppose 2nd due to equivalent primacy of container and song, merge juice box article to carton#aseptic carton immediately afterwards as lacking standalone notability. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:49, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 28 October 2023
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerium (talk) 18:17, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
Juicebox → Juice box – Literally every reference to the topic in the article is written as two words: "juice box". It would make more sense to have the title of the article not contradict that. This new page would be different from the "Juice Box" media player because of the lowercase 'b' in "box", but I would even argue that the media player's page should be moved to "Juice Box (media player)" because the juice container is more culturally significant than the Mattel device and should take precedence. As this "Juicebox" article stands now, it just looks like a grammatical error in the title which cannot be corrected unless we vote to move the page. Artartartart (talk) 17:54, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support per WP:COMMONNAME. Based on the Google Ngrams it does appear that the 2-word variant is the most common. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:45, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support per COMMONNAME. No evidence this is generally considered a fused compound in English; fused like this, it is generally a trademark for various products that have nothing to do with juice boxes. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 08:23, 3 November 2023 (UTC)