Talk:KAIST

To work on

Notable alumni: KAIST have many notable alumni, would be great if someone can make a list of them here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Constfang (talk • contribs) 05:01, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

A little bit broken English

Some of the sentences are not that well written. For example, 'united with ...' can be better expressed by 'merged with ...'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilkconue (talk • contribs) 03:50, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Needs neutral tone

The introduction is not written in a neutral tone. The third and fifth paragraphs are egregious examples. They lack supporting sources and are rather vague in the claims. The fourth paragraph is better, though the date for the ABET evaluation needs to be included. WP:NPOV#Let the facts speak for themselves would be nice. YooChung 05:34, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus^(talk) 18:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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KAIST → Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology — KAIST is an abbrviation. To meet the Wikipedia guideline of proper names, this article should be under the full title. There already exists the page under the title of Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology with redirection to the KAIST. I decided not to move the article by myself not to cause any possible problems. Kerilka 14:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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Survey - in support of the move

1. Support Article title should use the full name. Common usage of the abbreviation can be mentioned in the article itself. YooChung 00:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
2. Support I agree. The abbreviation can easily become a redirect. Thedreamdied 00:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
3. Support abbrev -> full name is the way it should be. *Mishatx*-In\Out 05:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Survey - in opposition to the move

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'KAIST' Decides Not to Use Original Full Name

From the KAIST website:

"The Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology (KAIST) has decided to change its official name to "KAIST" in order to strengthen its identity and image as Korea's foremost academic and research institution and avoid being confused with research organizations with similar names.

KAIST's full name, Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology, will no longer be used officially. The decision was made through a series of faculty meetings.

Starting from Jan. 1, 2008, "KAIST" will be used as the university's official name in all documents, including research papers."

Because of this new development I moved the article back to KAIST. --EnOreg (talk) 10:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Problems with article

• The article is more of a promotional text than an encyclopedia article.
• The organization is not consistent with the standard Wikipedia guidelines.
• The gallery is indiscriminate and unorganized.

Please address these problems before removing the {{advert}} and {{cleanup-restructure}} templates. Kiersta 08:23, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

While the organization is much improved, I can't but help think that it reads too much like a brochure. The tone itself is not neutral at all, and there are too many details that tend to hinder a general understanding of many sections. It does look like the information in the article could make for a good article when organized and written appropriately, although there's a sad lack of third party sources. Kiersta (talk) 03:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Recent history

Shouldn't the five suicides (http://www.worldyannews.com/news/articleList.html?page=1&total=176&sc_section_code=&sc_sub_section_code=S2N24&sc_serial_code=&sc_area=&sc_level=&sc_article_type=&sc_view_level=&sc_sdate=&sc_edate=&sc_serial_number=&sc_word=&view_type=) and the pressure to oust the president of KAIST (http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/498708.html) be included?Kdammers (talk) 09:02, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

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Rankings, standards

It certainly looks impressive but... Is this material at all reliable? I come across people affiliated with KAIST who publish, shall we say, third-rate stuff (I am being polite) in third-rate journals, with yahoo email addresses. It is hair-raising to think this is the best uni in Korea! Either KAIST really is a decent place and people are falsely claiming to be affiliated, or KAIST is very much a mixed bag. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:49FB:85C7:A282:D3A5 (talk) 13:55, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 17 March 2024

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The result of the move request was: Not moved * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:14, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

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KAIST → Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology – Firstly, there is a prior consensus upon the title of the article. However, the article was moved nevertheless. Secondly, Use the official name "Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology" — it is also the full name that is used in the footers of every webpage of the institute (the institute never changed its full name to "KAIST" only). We also have WP:TITLECON policy. We use Massachusetts Institute of Technology instead of "MIT" for the Wikipedia article title, even if the name "MIT" may be used often. This is also true for having California Institute of Technology instead of "Caltech" for article title. Cfls (talk) 20:44, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Lean support (Edit: changed my vote to oppose per Malerisch's reply.) Although officially, I think WP:COMMONNAME (and child policy MOS:ACROTITLE) are what would govern the title here; these policies are usually so strong that they outweigh policies such as WP:TITLECON. Things like UNESCO and NASA are abbreviated (although admittedly they're not universities) under ACROTITLE. Under TITLECON, my guess is that "KAIST" is genuinely the common name; few English-language publications (such as The Korea Times here [1]) would use the full name every time. I'm Korean and tbh I forget what KAIST stands for lol

That said, I'm irrationally biased towards WP:TITLECON here. toobigtokale (talk) 20:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Unlike "MIT" and "Caltech", "KAIST" is actually the official English name of this university, so WP:TITLECON is less relevant. The official English name was changed from "Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology" to "KAIST" in 2008: [2]. Per Ngrams, "KAIST" has been more commonly used since 2008, satisfying WP:NAMECHANGES: [3]. I see no reason to switch to a less WP:CONCISE name that is neither the WP:OFFICIALNAME nor the WP:COMMONNAME. Malerisch (talk) 11:33, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

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