Talk:Kailasa Temple, Ellora
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editThe name
editMost references including scholarly references use Kailasa or Kailasanatha temple, the other forms less commonly. This common majority use of Kailasanatha appears in web searches and google book searches as well (add Ellora to the search term). Kailashnath corresponds to Hindi pronunciation, but this place is deep in Marathi country where it would be either Kailasa natha or Kailasha natha. I suggest that it be moved again to Kailasanatha temple or Kailasa temple. Some refs;
- UNESCO WHS listing [1] Kailasa, Kailasha
- George Mitchell, Monuments of India vol. 1 (Kailasa)
- Maharashtra tourism [2] Kailasa
Imc (talk) 07:52, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose The websites you have quoted are not worthy to rely on. Why consider them as standard? The possibility is that a non-maharashtrian prepared these reports. "Kailashnath" is normally used by Maharashtrians. "Kailasa natha" is deep south Karnataka/Andhra.
- Anonymous editor, have we disagreed on a similar topic with regard to Kannada pronunciation before? You're suggesting that Marathi speakers use Hindi pronunciation. This quote is from the Marathi language article -
- Marathi preserves certain Sanskrit patterns of pronunciation, as in the words purṇa and rāma compared to purṇ and rām in Hindi.
- In any case I have quoted reliable sources. You haven't given a reason for supposing them 'not worthy to rely on'.
- Imc (talk) 08:23, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- The websites have conflicting data. [3](Reference 6) states "400 000 tonnes of rock" and [4](Reference 7) states "200,000 tons of rocks". This would lead to at least the tonnes referenced being in dispute between the two sites.
- dashawn888 17:15, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Renaming
editThis article (without the disamb) has been moved from a regional form of the name (Kailasanathar temple) to Kailashnath temple, Ellora. Most WP:RS however call it by the name Kailasa temple or Kailasanatha temple. Current references on the page include the UNESCO World Heritage site listing and the Kukke and Rothermund book which call it Kailasa temple. The travel blog reference currently in the article cannot be considered RS, and Templenet uses Kailasanatha. Google book search gives “Kailasa temple, Ellora” by far the highest score – over 3400 against 26 for “Kailashnath temple, Ellora”. (Kailasanatha temple, Ellora has 700+ hits). Hence I've moved the page to Kailasa temple, Ellora. Imc (talk) 11:07, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Kannada Letters
editThose who want Marathi letters please add them. But this temple was built by the Kannada Rashtrakoota kings (Krishna). There are insciptions in Kannada found on the site (I am not aware of any Marathi inscriptions). For the sake of history keep both Kannada and Marathi. I personally like Marathi and am learning. But that doesnt mean we should oppose other languages even when we know the whole thing was built by Rashtrakootas. Rashtrakoota kings were a great patrons of Kannada literature. First available Kannada work is from Rashtrakoota court. ~rAGU (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:29, 7 September 2016
- See WP:LEADCLUTTER and Wikipedia:INDICSCRIPT. The Kannada script is already present in the infobox: adding it in lead is redundant. utcursch | talk 15:05, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Claim of divine grace
editThe second paragraphs reads that the temple was a result of divine grace which seems unobjective for an encyclopedia to be claiming. "Perhaps the greatest wonder in rock-cut temples anywhere in the world, this stupendous achievement of Hindu skill, divine grace and Hindu society resulted in this two-storeyed wonder with thousands of sculptures, all rock-cut."
Perhaps it should read as being beleived to be acheived by or believed to be helped by...if that belief is indeed held.
Also the sentence itself is a little clunky; it seems to be self-referrentially resulting in itself the way it is worded. ("...this acheivement...resulted in this... wonder..") 2600:6C44:74F0:80F0:B7F0:A9B2:C1EA:BD65 (talk) 01:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Removed - ip addition a week ago. Johnbod (talk) 12:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC)