Talk:Kanaka Dasa

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MR Nagarajachar rather than claiming things wrong why don't you try to improve the article, the important thing to note is those who have claimed the miracle as wrong are Brahmins and not Shudras.--Ganesha1 12:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Unwarranted Information

Mr Achari is trying to include an argument about Kanakana Kindi in Kanaka Dasa's article, he is hell bent on proving that the Miracle at Udipi did not happen at all for reasons best known to him, I think its unwarranted for and is not appropriate to include in Sri Kanaka Dasa's article--Ganesha1 17:12, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

If something is in popular imagination of a incident happened when there were no know records.We need to consider what is in popular belief. If we try to debunk every popular belief then we would end up debunking everything and every incident that happened. Ofcourse each individual can have his own thoughts. Like Mr Achari has, where he believes that Kanakana kindi incident did not take place. But the popular belief is that it happened. It is a moot point what Mr Achari believes. It does not matter what he thinks. The incident is supposed to have happened during the life of Kanakadasa between 1509 -1609. I could come up with a million things from history and argue that it could not have happened. But doing that would not change anything What I say would not matter. Just like What Mr Achari says does not matter. ---Prakash

The popular belief need not be the truth always. Nowhere has Kanakadasa referred to that incident and no one has written about in atleast in his time. Also, the popular beliefs may come from movies. Would you include everything that becomes popular from movies which are not well referenced? -Surya — Preceding unsigned comment added by CSCM01 (talk • contribs) 11:18, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Folk lore

yes right,the reasons wot Mr Achari has thought is for himself and not for a information page..who disapproves it and who approves it is a matter of personal choice. but as the folk lore goes it did happen at udupi, and i think we can come to a amicable solution by saying that this happened as per the folk lore. Anand —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anand.raichur (talk • contribs) 11:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC).

New Edits

Hello all. I have started editing this article to meet Wikipedia Standards. Please correct them if you find mistakes. I respect the belief about miracles such as that overnight Kanaka Dasa became a composer/musician and Lord Krishna's statue turned by itself backwards to give Darshana to him. But as an accompanying musician I see the real miracles he has done in the world of music and Kannada literature. I believe it came due to his years of sadana from his childhood. His down-to-earth philosophy with extreme devotion to Lord Hari, high respect to other faiths and straightforwardness in criticizing evils of society have made him unique. The way in which he included day-to-day common language into the complicated Karnataka Music format proves that he was a born genius like Sri Purandara Daasa.Naadapriya (talk) 16:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I am glad you have taken up this task. Even if you want to add info on miracles and such, just elaborate that these are "legends", so people are not offended. If you feel its not encyclopaedia material, just leave it out.thanks.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 16:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Draft of new Biography section to meet Wikipedia standards

Thimmappa Nayaka was his original name and he belonged to chieftain (Nayaka) family of Kuruba community of Bada Village[1] in Haveri district. He came to be called Kanaka Nayaka as he found a treasure-trove of gold ( kanaka means gold in Kannada). Kanaka Dasa was well educated and capable of analyzing the society microscopically. In early age he acquired deep knowledge about poetry and understood the nuances of Karnataka Music that was just founded by Purandara Daasa. Based on one of his compositions it is interpreted that after he severely got hurt in a war and miraculously saved, he gave up his warrior’s profession and devoted himself to writings and composing music. It appears that he started traveling to places a lot to gain more knowledge. Though he came from Shaivism community followed by Kurubas, he became a close follower of Vaishnavism. However he had maintained a balanced view about all faiths. In early age he authored poetries Narasimha stotra, Ramadhyana Mantra, and Mohanatarangini.

His writing started showing his innovativeness in using day to day information. For e.g. Ramadhyana Mantra is a poetic expression of conflicts between rich and poor classes where he uses ragi ( main food of poor) and rice(main food of rich) to synonymously to represent poor and rich. He joined haridasa movement and became a follower of Vyasaraja who named him as Kanakadasa. His poems and krithi deal with many aspects of life and expose the futility of external rituals. They stress the need for cultivation of moral values in life. Similar to Purandara Daasa, Kanaka Daasa’s compositions addressed social issues in addition to devotional aspect. Kanaka Daasa was very aggressive and straight forward in criticizing evils of society such as superiority claims using caste system.

The deity he worshiped was Adhikeshava of Kaginele, presently in Haveri district of Karnataka. Kaginele, now a village, was a prosperous place and trading center in middle ages. Out of many of his compositions, about 240 are fully accountable today. All his Karnataka Music compositions end with mudra (signature) Kaginele Adhikeshava. In addition to being a poet he worked as a social reformer by down playing dogmatic communities that were suppressing the disadvantaged communities. Kanakadasa made extreme effort in reforming the disadvantaged communities by convincing them to give-up their age old obsolete social practices and adapt to the changing world. He effectively used music to convey his philosophy. He lived at Tirupathi in his last days. He is one of the greatest musician, composer, poet, social reformer, philosopher and saint that India has ever produced.Naadapriya (talk) 15:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Looks ok. We can copy edit later. Just make sure every critical sentence is well cited, from multiple sources if need be.thanks.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 15:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Need Deletion or modification of Section on Forums

With due respect to all communities it is stated that Sri Kanaka Daasaru is beyond the bounds of any community. He is a great philosopher, Karnataka Music composer and social reformer. That's what the article is focusing on. Therefore the current section on forums need to be removed. It will be deleted or modified unless someone has immediate logical justification to keep it. Naadapriya (talk) 06:19, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

What does "ನಾನು ಹೋದರೆ ಹೋದೇನು - Thou shall go if Thy Leaves" mean?

"Thou" means "you" and "Thy" means "your": so it says "you shall go if your leaves"? What are your leaves? "ನಾನು" means "I"; how can it not be in the translation? Shreevatsa (talk) 18:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

by Achyutha.N.H ,"ನಾನು ಹೋದರೆ ಹೋದೇನು  means that i shall go to heaven if self (self here is a boosting)goes away. it simple kannada you can't translate it into english by your own way.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.207.3 (talk) 14:38, 15 November 2012 (UTC) 

For full verse - ನೀ ಮಾಯೆಯೊಳಗೊ?

The full text of the verse with more explanation in -> Kanaka Dasa (The name hould have been Kanakadasa)

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• ನಾನು ಹೋದರೆ ಹೋದೇನು - the ego - the "Ahankara" ; main one of four Tatvas ie principles of primary self-Nature - Mana, Buddhi, Ahankara, and chitta, Ahankara is the main principle of self assertion in vedanta or Sankhya Yoga Philosophy. If Ahankara is desolved the Atama becomes one with God or as per vaishnava pinciple he can reach the Vaikuntha , the abode of Vishnu !!

Bschandrasgr (talk) 18:22, 24 November 2015 (UTC)