Talk:Katerina Nurdzhieva

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because <replace these words with your reason>. — 92.55.102.227 (talk) 09:33, 2 October 2011 (UTC) She is the nephew of the Macedonian and Bulgarian hero Goce Delchev, she was fighting for the Republic of Macedonia and the Macedonians and she has great importance.

• I'm terribly sorry, but those are not valid reasons for notability. Notability is not inherited and while being a freedom fighter is a laudable thing, there are millions of them and we cannot create articles for every single one of them. If this person is notable, you will have to show that using independent reliable sources. --Crusio (talk) 09:43, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because <replace these words with your reason>. — Macedon 10:36, 2 October 2011 (UTC)This is an important figure in the Macedonian War for Independence and she is one of the few who are alive and were in that war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Romanski1996 (talk • contribs)

Nationalistic POV

This woman was born in Bulgaria lived here and still lives here. Gotse Delchev never was an ethnic Macedonian. Jingby (talk) 13:45, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

• Katerina is Macedonian, all her life she sais that she is a Macedonian and that her uncle Goce Delchev was Macedonian. The Bulgarian Goverment put her in prison because she was fighting for Macedonia. A Bulgarian would never fight for Macedonia, making her as you can see ethnic Macedonian

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Romanski1996 (talk)

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Requested move 30 April 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (closed by non-admin page mover) Danski454 (talk) 19:55, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

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Katerina Traykova Nurdžieva → Katerina Nurdzhieva – This is the official transliteration according to the acting law of the transliteration. Traykova is a surname, not part of the family name. StanProg (talk) 09:41, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose Neutral. What does the law of transliteration in Bulgaria have to do with the naming of this article? --Local hero ^talk 14:16, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
• Support. Two names will be enough. This woman was Bulgarian citizen. She was born and died in Bulgaria, i.e. her native name has to be written in accordance with the rules of the Bulgarian transliteration. More, Traykova is written in accordance with the rules of the Bulgarian acting law above. We have some strange hybridization now. Jingiby (talk) 14:22, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

@Local hero: Katerina Nurdzhieva was born in Bulgaria, she is living in Bulgaria and is a Bulgarian citizen with Bulgarian passport. In her passport this is the transliteration that is used, since this is the official transliteration, so this is her official latinized name. The current article name is some kind of mix between the official transliteration and the one from the former Yugoslav countries. Traykova is according to the official transliteration (and from her passport) - in former Yugoslav countries it's transliterated as Trajkova. Nurdžieva is transliteration from the former Yugoslav countries, while the official from her passport is Nurdzhieva. This is why I requested a move. --StanProg (talk) 22:18, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

The current title is actually the result of a move made by Jingiby in 2013. But yes the current transliteration doesn't really make sense, it should either be 'Trajkova Nurdžieva' or 'Traykova Nurdzhieva' (and perhaps leaving Trajkova out altogether). Is there not a name preferred by sources? If not, I guess we can go with your proposal. --Local hero ^talk 02:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

This person is not so known and there are not many sources that cover her life. She was a Bulgarian teacher all her life, excluding an 1 year period when she was a secretary of the President of Anti-Fascist Assembly of the National Liberation of Macedonia, and 2 months when she was an Yugoslav partisan. Most of her mentions in google are based on this article. --StanProg (talk) 10:56, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

• Support. If this were Russian instead of Bulgarian, I believe that "Traykova" would be her patronymic, not a surname - in other words, an indicator that her father had the given name of something like "Trayk-". Does en.WP have a standard of excluding Slavic patronymics from the Slavic full-names used as names-of-articles - e.g., "Lev Tolstoy" instead of "Lev Nikolayevich Tolstoy"? (In contrast, Icelandic full-names entirely lack surnames, and consist entirely of the given name followed by the patronymic.) Acwilson9 (talk) 22:50, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
• Support. The shorter name appears to be more common in English and is unambiguous in terms of WP:AT. Andrewa (talk) 07:19, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Target history

I preserve it here as it's likely to be overwritten and (for all practical purposes) lost.

18:57, 22 July 2013‎ AvicBot talk contribs block‎ m  42 bytes 0‎  Robot: Fixing double redirect to Katerina Traykova Nurdžieva
00:08, 12 December 2011‎ AvicBot talk contribs block‎ m  42 bytes +9‎  Robot: Fixing double redirect to Katerina Nurdžieva Trajkova
23:04, 11 December 2011‎ Romanski1996 talk contribs block‎  33 bytes +33‎  moved Katerina Nurdzhieva to Katerina Nurdžieva

Note this implies a circle of moves that is (probably) about to be completed. Andrewa (talk) 07:13, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

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