Talk:Keep On Truckin'

Requested move 12 October 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

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• Keep on Truckin' → Keep On Truckin'
• Keep on Truckin' (TV series) → Keep On Truckin' (TV series)
• Keep on Truckin' (The Conners) → Keep On Truckin' (The Conners)
• Keep on Truckin' (comics) → Keep On Truckin' (comics)
• Keep on Truckin' (song) → Keep On Truckin' (song)
• Keep on Doin' → Keep On Doin'
• Keep on Lovin' Me Honey → Keep On Lovin' Me Honey
• Keep on Moving Straight Ahead → Keep On Moving Straight Ahead
• Keep on Pumpin' It → Keep On Pumpin' It
• Keep on Pushin' → Keep On Pushin'
• Keep on Ridin → Keep On Ridin
• Keep on Working → Keep On Working

These four were part of the request (at that time with red target links), but were moved by ILIL in the meantime:

• Keep on Jumpin' → Keep On Jumpin'
• Keep on Lovin' → Keep On Lovin'
• Keep on Masturbating: Non-Stop Pleasure → Keep On Masturbating: Non-Stop Pleasure
• Keep on Runnin → Keep On Runnin

– Per MOS:TITLECAPS: When followed by a verb (gerund), to keep on is a phrasal verb meaning to continue (to do something), with "on" being a particle (not a preposition). See also Special:PrefixIndex/Keep On.

I noticed Dicklyon's reversal of ILIL's capitalization of 'on' on this disamb page, and the connected discussion on Talk:Keep on Truckin' (song) between Dicklyon and Martinevans123, after I already moved Keep On Dancing ({{RMassist}}ed), Keep On Dancing (DJ BoBo song), and Keep On Dancing (The Gentrys song) today — so I'm listing all remaining "Keep on" pages here. Also pinging Gyrofrog and Mdumas43073 who made (fairly) recent moves in the other direction.

With kind regards — Mar(c). ^[talk] 01:13, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose changing Keep on Truckin (comics), the name of the comic includes the lower-case 'on'. Have checked only the comic. Randy Kryn (talk) 01:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose, though perhaps I could be convinced; I'm not sure this particle vs preposition distinction is really sensible, but will listen to those who know more about such things. Obviously this disambig page didn't need capped "On" when all the things it referenced had lowercase "on". Dicklyon (talk) 03:00, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

  Hello Dicklyon. To me, proper (non)capitalization of these words contributes to the understandability of the titles. In general, all different versions of title case intend to reduce the overcapitalization of start case, and lowercasing short prepositions appropriately takes away the emphasis from those words. Capitalizing them when they are not functioning as prepositions (as our style guide prescribes), i.e. when they are not part of a prepositional phrase, highlights the different linguistic meaning and also reflects the bit of added emphasis they have in reading, compared to true prepositions. As opposed to e.g. "on the sunny side", there's no "on trucking" (etc.) happening here. I agree with your last remark; that's part of why I made this a combined proposal. With kind regards — Mar(c). ^[talk] 13:28, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

• Support definitely! Local consensus cannot override the community consensus at MOS:TITLECAPS. In each and every one of these titles, "on" is not used as a preposition and so should be capitalized. This is not the correct place to argue how sensible is the consensus that shaped and formed the Manual of Style. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 05:19, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom. "On" is not a preposition in these cases. Paintspot Infez (talk) 19:28, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
• Support. If it's not being used as a preposition, then it is supposed to be capitalized per the MoS. Rreagan007 (talk) 21:43, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
• Support per MOS:CT. Darkday (talk) 22:20, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.