Talk:Khalifa (album)

Orphaned references in Khalifa (album)

I think the producers for track 8 are wrong. Check spotify.

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Khalifa (album)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "hiphopdx1":

• From Snoop Dogg: Tardio, Andres (July 21, 2014). "Snoop Dogg & Wiz Khalifa Announce "Mac + Devin Go To High School" Part 2 | Get The Latest Hip Hop News, Rap News & Hip Hop Album Sales". HipHop DX. Retrieved August 18, 2014.
• From Chevy Woods: Ortiz, Edwin (2011-06-16). "DXnext: Chevy Woods | Check Out New Hip Hop Artists & Upcoming Rappers". HipHop DX. Retrieved 2013-09-25.
• From Blacc Hollywood: Smith, Bruce. "Wiz Khalifa – Blacc Hollywood". HipHop DX. Retrieved 2014-08-20.
• From Wiz Khalifa discography: Tardio, Andres (July 21, 2014). "Snoop Dogg b& Wiz Khalifa Announce "Mac + Devin Go To High School" Part 2 | Get The Latest Hip Hop News, Rap News & Hip Hop Album Sales". HipHop DX. Retrieved August 18, 2014.
• From Rico Love: J-23 (November 25, 2010). "Jamie Foxx's "Best Night of my Life" Art & Tracklisting Revealed". HipHop DX. Retrieved November 30, 2011.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
• From Live in Concert (EP): Horowitz, Steven J. (2012-05-23). "Curren$y Says Collaborative Mixtape With Wiz Khalifa Is Finished". HipHop DX. Retrieved 2013-04-19.
• From Wiz Khalifa: Tardio, Andres (July 21, 2014). "Snoop Dogg & Wiz Khalifa Announce "Mac + Devin Go To High School" Part 2". HipHop DX. Retrieved August 18, 2014.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:17, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

This is Not an Album

The creation of this section is really just more of a courtesy, not a single physical copy of this album was manufactured and/or sold, that on top of the fact it was labeled as a Mixtape in an iTunes advertisement the week of its release. There really isn't much to discuss here BUT, if Physicals are eventually produced there might be more of an argument, however at the moment there is not. Weweremarshall (talk) 02:41, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Even after reading Mixtape#In_hip_hop, I'm not sure what 'mixtape' means here, or how it differs from an album. What I see is that most of the sources refer to Khalifa as an album. This debate seems to depend heavily on what definitions should be used. Willondon (talk) 20:41, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

The music articles on this site feature absolutely zero consistency across the board. Calling it an "album" can be a promotional tool, as Gucci Mane has released about over twenty "albums" in the last three years, yet none of them are categorized as so. So the way I looked at it is, Atlantic Records released three projects from Young Thug the exact same way as Khalifa was released, pushed to digital retailers, iTunes, Amazon, Google Play but release zero physical copies of the album, these projects were categorized mixtapes. Considering there is zero enforced consistency across the board on this site, I'm judging the same way the labels and retailers view it.. physical copies make it an album, none make it a mixtape. As for KHALIFA specifically, iTunes advertisements listed the project as a mixtape when the pre-order launched and continues running the ads once the project was released. Weweremarshall (talk) 00:19, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Maybe mixtapes is a subset of albums. Willondon (talk) 01:16, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

I hope this discussion brings me up to date on what these words mean now. I learned the words “album”, “mixtape” and “rap” in the late 1970’s. An album was any published collection of sound recordings, and rap could only refer to Gil Scott-Heron. A mixtape would never be considered an album, because it wasn’t published, it was just a personal thing. We would copy vinyl LPs onto magnetic cassette tapes, so they’d be portable enough to play in cars, or on ghetto blasters or Walkmans. Naturally, we eventually mixed songs from different albums on to a tape, either to evoke a certain mood, cater to a particular function, or to curate a special sequence designed to appeal to a special someone.

Hip hop artists took that technology, dropped the sequence, mashed things together, and published the results in albums. So I now understand “mixtape” to mean a certain kind of album. My understanding of “album” transitioned smoothly as vinyl was replaced with CDs. Is the word “album” now dependent on whether or not there are physical copies, or can “album” still be understood as a collection, even if it’s published as data free of physical form? It seems to me that now, ”mixtape” is used to refer to a particular kind of album.

So in this debate, I’m inclined to support “album” rather than “mixtape” as the appropriate designation. Willondon (talk) 12:35, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Again, there's not much to support. "Mixtape" is a digitally exclusive album that still contains new content. Again, there are no references or sources confirming a physical release of this project. Weweremarshall (talk) 18:34, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

I fail to see why anyone should care whether an album is released on physical media or not at this point in time. If you want a copy on physical media, can't you just burn a CD yourself or copy it onto a USB drive? What difference does it make? Recorded music is an analog (monophonic or multi-channel) signal or corresponding digital data that can be readily converted into such a signal, not a physical object. —BarrelProof (talk) 23:33, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 11 June 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved as clear consensus has been established. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Music1201 ^talk 21:07, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

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Khalifa (mixtape) → Khalifa (album) – Its a studio album, not a mixtape. Koala15 (talk) 06:10, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

• Support: Most of the secondary sources describe it as an album (even if some of them also refer to it as a mixtape). Arguments favouring its designation in the article's title as a mixtape are dependent on a definition that seems arbitrary (i.e. publisher not offering a physical manifestation of the collection of audio recordings), and a mixtape/album distinction not supported by sources. Willondon (talk) 20:53, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
• Support: Suggest closing. There has been no opposition. I'd close it myself, but I expressed a closely related opinionated comment above. —BarrelProof (talk) 17:39, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

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Redirect page sends you to the redirect page again

Can't even access the "Khalifa" page anymore. MaxAeroHD (talk) 06:05, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

@MaxAeroHD: It's because Philg88 moved the page when he didn't realize that it has already been moved by Anthony Appleyard. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 14:31, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

• @GeoffreyT2000: I have put it right. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:16, 19 June 2016 (UTC)