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Latest comment: 1 year ago10 comments9 people in discussion
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Oppose per MOS:RETAIN. The page was originally created as "The French Légion d’honneur (Legion of honour)" so this is the original spelling that was used in this article. Rreagan007 (talk) 02:19, 9 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Support per WP:COMMONNAME. All the arguments above have looked at the history of the page or the official website, but none have opted to look at independent sources. Ngrams demonstrate that "Legion of Honor" has been more common since around 1886, only just recently narrowing. [1]estar8806 (talk) ★16:38, 9 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Comment - I've put a couple more formats into ngrams and returned these results:
- "Legion of Honour of France" is slightly more common than "Legion of Honor of France" [2]
- "Legion of Honor" is more common than "Legion of Honour" [3]
- "Legion of Honor + France" and "Legion of Honour + France" are statistically even [4].
Comment - "Brexit means ... Euro-English?".[5] "And the variety that underpins the [European] Commission's English style guide is clear. It's not Euro-English, it's not American English, it's 'standard usage of Britain and Ireland' — referred to as 'British usage' or 'British English' in the guide 'for the sake of convenience.'" [6]. "Honour" is predominantly used in British English. In the source France's Europe Minister Clément Beaune spoke about a "broken English", that's probably why there are constant changes between "honor" and "honour". Oroborvs (talk) 11:38, 10 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Oppose I'm an American and solely use American English in my daily life. However, it's been the article's name for over a decade and because of MOS:RETAIN it should stay;"When an English variety's consistent usage has been established in an article, maintain it in the absence of consensus to the contrary. With few exceptions (e.g., when a topic has strong national ties or the change reduces ambiguity), there is no valid reason for changing from one acceptable option to another." The legion *does* have strong national ties... to France, where they don't care if we're using the honour or honor variation; there's no pressing reason why it should change given the high burden of MOS:RETAIN. R. J. Dockery (talk) 21:15, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion
The 3 "List of" pages in the See also sectionhave the spelling Légion d'honneur. Either they should be changed or this article's title should be changed. Mcljlm (talk) 02:19, 6 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
