Talk:L. N. Gumilev Eurasian National University

Learn more about this page

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the L. N. Gumilev Eurasian National University article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Central Asia: Kazakhstan Low‑importance

	Asia portal L. N. Gumilev Eurasian National University is part of WikiProject Central Asia, a project to improve all Central Asia-related articles. This includes but is not limited to Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Tajikistan, Tibet, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Xinjiang and Central Asian portions of Iran, Pakistan and Russia, region-specific topics, and anything else related to Central Asia. If you would like to help improve this and other Central Asia-related articles, please join the project. All interested editors are welcome.Central AsiaWikipedia:WikiProject Central AsiaTemplate:WikiProject Central AsiaCentral Asia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Kazakhstan (assessed as Low-importance).

Higher education

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Higher education, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of higher education, universities, and colleges on Wikipedia. Please visit the project page to join the discussion, and see the project's article guideline for useful advice.Higher educationWikipedia:WikiProject Higher educationTemplate:WikiProject Higher educationHigher education articles

Requested move 13 April 2018

Latest comment: 6 years ago11 comments5 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. Consensus is that the proposed title better reflects the usual conventions on spaces. Cúchullain ^t/c 13:58, 24 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

L.N.Gumilyov Eurasian National University → L.N. Gumilyov Eurasian National University

- L.N.Gumilyov shall be written with a space between name and surname, as it originally written in Russian. Google search results also give more results with L.N. Gumilyov Eurasian National University.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ChelseaFunNumberOne (talk • contribs) 09:27, 13 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Move to L. N. Gumilyov Eurasian National University per our usual spacing conventions. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:18, 18 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
- This proposal is irrelevant as per Russian and Kazakh grammar rules, official languages of the University. Here is additional links to social network accounts that support initial version: Twitter and Facebook.--ChelseaFunNumberOne (talk) 18:51, 18 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
  - And that is irrelevant, given this is English Wikipedia, not Russian or Kazakh Wikipedia! See WP:INITIALS. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:46, 20 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
    - Agree with native English names, but this is inappropriate for Russian name. In English initials are used for name and middle name, while in Russian for name and father name. Gramatically, name and father name must be written together. Kazakh language follow the same rule.--ChelseaFunNumberOne (talk) 16:04, 20 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
      - Sorry, but that really makes no sense. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:04, 23 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
        I think they mean that their opinions of how English should work should take precedence over everything else. (;-> It's quite a common belief. Andrewa (talk) 00:11, 24 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Move to L. N. Gumilyov Eurasian National University per our usual spacing conventions. Agree with Necrothesp. Andrewa (talk) 11:54, 21 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Move to L. N. Gumilyov Eurasian National University per Necrothesp. Dekimasuよ! 18:29, 22 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Discussion

The appeals above to formatting conventions for Russian and Kazakh names may be relevant to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people). I have now raised it there.

But I've also added it to Wikipedia:Correct#Examples as it seems a good example of how not to argue an RM, however discussion goes at the guideline talk page. Whether the preferred style for personal names is even relevant to this particular RM is another issue entirely. It seems peripheral to me in terms of our article naming policy.

Other thoughts? Andrewa (talk) 06:54, 24 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.