Talk:LGBTQ rights in Greenland

Adoption

Is step/2nd-parent adoption legal? The Danish partnership act was extended to Greenland, but that did not originally allow for adoption. Was the 1989 amendment to the act also extended to Greenland? — kwami (talk) 08:07, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Greenland got same-sex partnerships in 1996, which included the right to stepchild adoption.--Batmacumba (talk) 10:37, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Same sex marriage bill

Two points in the current text needs sourcing. Firstly, that L35 is an "updated" version of L122. According to the source it is the same bill being reintroduced under a new name ("genfremsættelse") - so this info is unsourced and seems unlikely. What, if anything, is different? Secondly, the unsourced claim that it could take effect on April 1, 2016. The minimum time for a Danish legislative procedure is only 30 days, and the bill itself says April 1, 2015 (so retroactively) for the same-sex marriage part, so we need a source on this. The Danish constitution does not ban retroactive legislation, so one can not just assume it is a typo (which would be very unusual in a bill).--Batmacumba (talk) 17:18, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

1. "and the bill itself says April 1, 2015"

The bill itself says: "Loven træder i kraft den 1. april 2016"

2."What, if anything, is different?"

The bill does (e.g.) not say "Loven træder i kraft den 1. oktober 2015" anymore.176.0.104.36 (talk) 17:52, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

1. In Folketingstidende (used as reference 5 and 8 in the article) it says:

"§5 Stk. 1. Loven træder i kraft den 1. april 2015, jf. dog stk. 2. Stk. 2. §§ 1, 3 og 4 træder i kraft den 1. juli 2016."

http://www.folketingstidende.dk/RIpdf/samling/20151/lovforslag/L35/20151_L35_som_fremsat.pdf

If you have an alternative source with a different date and the date in Folketingstidende is a typo, we should switch sources.

2. If the only "update" is the date where it takes effect and there is no change in the content it is better to write "similar".--Batmacumba (talk) 18:06, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

The pdf you linked on this talk page is the very same pdf I linked in the article - and it says "1. april 2016". Period.176.0.104.36 (talk) 18:53, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Of course it is the same pdf (as I wrote: reference 5 and 8). And no, it actually says 1. april 2015. Try looking at it again.--Batmacumba (talk) 19:21, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Changed to what the source says regarding when it takes effect + clarification that it is similar to L122.--Batmacumba (talk) 20:02, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

It seems two sections of the bill contradict each other. I was going by the final section "Lovforslaget sammenholdt med gældende ret" (the bill compared to the current law), where it is compared to the present legal status and it says 1 April 2015 there. This may be an error, but we can not just assume so, since this is a case where retroactive legislation (approving marriages already in existence) would make sense.--Batmacumba (talk) 11:49, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Please do not make changes to this section before we have discussed it here.--Batmacumba (talk) 17:42, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

As said on the administrator's board:

Pages 1 and 2 are the actual 'law proposal' ("Forslag til lov").Pages 3 to 26 are 'comments on the law proposal' ("bemærkninger til lovforslaget") - on past legislation, on changes to be made and their effects, on why those changes are proposed etc. etc. etc.Pages 27 to 35 form an annex ("bilag") comparing the laws' wording as currently applicable ("gældende formulering") with the law proposal's ("lovforslaget") wording. Page 35, which includes the typo, forms merely part of the explanatory notes.The actual law proposal, members of parliament will vote on, is made up of pages 1 and 2 only.

Prove this wrong !176.4.137.39 (talk) 17:48, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

The differences in phrasing does create an uncertainty and it is not clear which section includes a typo. The best course of action would be not to mention the date the bill takes effect for the time being. It is a minor detail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Batmacumba (talk • contribs) 17:58, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Whether the typo is on page 2 or page 35 doesnt change the fact that page 2 (the BILL) says "2016". PMs vote on bills, not on explanatory notes176.4.137.39 (talk) 18:03, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

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