Talk:Lady finger banana

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Latest comment: 3 months ago by NotFromMarkkleeberg in topic Grammar, bias, and words

Lady's Finger

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I think it should be changed to Lady's Finger with an apostrophe.. --Dara (talk) 23:27, 12 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Dominican Banana

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The Dominican Banana, the spanish name for Lady Finger's bananas, should be added to the description. RafayoA (talk) 01:44, 10 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

I guess you are translating almost literally from Spanish, @RafayoA. Do you mean "banano/banana dominico" (Lady Finger banana) or "plátano dominico"[1]? I noticed that, in some countries, they use the word "dominico" to refer to the "Lady Finger banana". The problem is that there is a plantain or cooking banana called commonly "plátano dominico" and has nothing to do with the dessert banana described in this article. Lady Finger is a Musa (AA) and, plátano dominico is a Musa (AAB).

Usually thesis or graduation projects which were written originally in Spanish, are translated, at least partially (abstract), into English; but, sadly, most of them are not translated correctly. For example this Ecuadorian work uses the word "banana" instead of "plantain" when translating the abstract into English, which will confuse native speakers of English; and, it translates "dominico" as "Dominican". I think it must be translated a "dominico plantain". But, it is possible to identify correctly the cultivar because the taxonomic name in this work is "Dominican banana (Musa AAB Simmonds)". Obviously, a more helpful taxonomic name might be something like "Dominico plantain (Musa genus, AAB group, Simmonds)" When looking for this kind of academic works, my suggestion is to steer away from management and or business related works as I have found several errors regarding the botanical part. I guess this happens because the fields of expertise of the reviewers have nothing to do with the natural sciences.

This is a Mexican work that uses incorrectly the term "banana dominico" para referirse exactamente a la misma planta en lugar de "plátano dominico".

And, I understand that in some South American countries they only use the word "banana" or, only the word "plátano" but, in countries such as Ecuador, where they use both words, ambiguity is less likely to be a concern. In English, we have "(dessert) banana"; and, "plantain" or "cooking banana" which help a lot to avoid confusion, too.

This final example is from Bolivia. I do not know if they only use the word "plátano" but, this work refers to this plant as "plátano (Musa balbisiana)var. Dominico (Musa AAB)". I don't like how they used "Musa balbisiana" because the group is mentioned later and describes it correctly as a triploid.

George Rodney Maruri Game (talk) 11:42, 10 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

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The picture is wrong.

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That picture was taken in Australia where they grow Musa acuminata × balbisiana Colla (AAB Group) cv. 'Pome' which has a very different form.

But, this article is about Musa (AA) 'Lady Finger'.

Besides, it is important to notice that the Musa (AA) 'Lady Finger' is somewhat similar in appearance to the Latundan banana (Musa acuminata × M. balbisiana (AAB Group) 'Silk') which is a triploid hybrid banana cultivar of the AAB "Pome" group from the Philippines.

Musa (AA) 'Lady Finger' looks like Latundan banana at some stages and when the picture has been taken from certain angles. The Web is full of mislabed pictures.

There is a graduation work/project/thesis (in Spanish) from ESPOL which is based on the "Orito" (that is how we call this variety in Ecuador, where we grow it for national consumption and exportation) here. The author touches the topic of the similar appearance (I thought I was the only one who had noticed it) with the Latundan banana. (Warning: the table in Anexo C has a few mistakes at the beginning of the the last column).

I left complementary information at the Latundan banana talk page.

I am not changing the picture as all the copyright/license/etc. stuff is something which I know very little. The Malayan article of Wikipedia has the right picture. The Thai article has the same main pic as this article but the secondary pic is correct.

This is an excellent article from Philipines (in English) with great explanations and pictures but, it is not perfect as Pisang Mas (or Lady Finger Banana) is not featured. A "perfect" article (not in English) is this one (A copy can be found here, too). A detailed and more technical list of most South-East Asian cultivars can be found here.

George Rodney Maruri Game (talk) 08:48, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Grammar, bias, and words

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1. I feel like we need to make sure the page is written in proper English. I saw that the words “is” and “are” were being mixed up, for example.

2. Parts of the page feel like an advertisement for lady’s finger bananas. The “Uses” section seems to be based on opinions rather than facts, and the page calls the fruit nutritious without really specifing the nutrients provided.

3. The article repeats itself, and I feel like the word “local” should be replaced with something else.

NotFromMarkkleeberg (talk) 02:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply