Talk:November 2006 nor'easter
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Current event?
editIf this storm is still actve, and is moving into Canada, why not include a current storm info section? What are its effects to Canada? AstroHurricane001 19:38, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- It brushed by Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, but did bring them some rain and likely some wind. I'll check with someone I know at Environment Canada to see if there is any other information, because an initial search online has turned up nothing from the St. Johns and Halifax newspapers. This cyclone deepened rapidly last night, and is half way to Europe. Thegreatdr 21:07, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks, and I'm guessing that the effects on Canada weren't as severe as what happened in the US, because of what the article says. Despite the deepening pressure, I guess it wasn't major enough to be mentioned in a major newspaper. Maybe there's some info on Wikinews. Also, since Enviroment Canada might have tracked this storm, there might be some info on The weather network. AstroHurricane001 22:24, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- That does look like a good site for future conditions. I couldn't find anything about past conditions other than climatological averages. Looks like Halifax enjoys a beautiful summer. =) Thegreatdr 00:29, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- If you want to check the past data, enter the city, click on last 24h on the left column, or scroll down, select the date for historical data, and click submit. Snow in Florida is very rare, and I think a newspaper is enough for a reference. AstroHurricane001 00:36, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- Good to know. This cyclone is going to hang around Iceland for the next week. I'm guessing we need to keep it current until this circulation fades away? Thegreatdr 01:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Florida?
editIs this the same storm system that brought snow flurries to central Florida? bob rulz 10:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes. Thegreatdr 11:14, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- I figured as much. I've found a newspaper article on the event, but that's about all the info I can find on it at the moment. bob rulz 11:40, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
944mb low?
editWhat is the source for the 944 mbar figure? That is far deeper than even the 1993 North American Storm Complex, and more intense than any Atlantic hurricane this season, in line with a Category 4 hurricane! Anyway, good start on this article - I never even thought about it for that system! CrazyC83 03:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Well, you can expect to see more storms of the same type near that same area! A new storm is expected to bring stormy conditions from the Gulf of Mexico to Atlantic Canada. This could bring record breaking high tempertures to parts of eastern US and Canada, and snow to parts of Ohio, Pensylvania, Michigan, etc and parts of Ontario and Quebec. It already has brought thunderstorms to Parts of Michigan, Iowa, Minnesota, etc, and snow/ice/freezing rain/blizzard/extreme weather to parts of Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia, and parts of Northern US! Hopefully it doesn't become another Cat. 4. AstroHurricane001 13:26, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- The OPC surface analysis from that time...their analyses are online for a week through www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov if you'd like to view them. The system was well out to sea at the time, but the North Atlantic and North Pacific manage a few storms of of 950 hPa or below each winter. Keep in mind extratropical cyclones have broader wind fields. Quikscat gave the system uncontaminated 80 kt wind vectors, for reference. Thegreatdr 14:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Still active?
editStill active? Wow. – Chacor 15:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Name of the article
editI know this article was moved, because of "Thanksgiving takes please at another time outside the US".
Google finds for "Late November 2006 Nor'easter" outside Wikipedia: zero. sic!!!
Google finds for "Thanksgiving 2006 Nor'easter" outside WP: approc. 60.000.
Please move it back, in general the world isn't too stupid to know when it's Thanksgiving in the US. (Otherwise, we can look it up!) --213.155.224.232 17:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose systemic bias. – Chacor 18:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Chacor. We're avoiding POV by not using the name of a US holiday. The reason there may be all of these internet hits on Thanksgiving Nor'easter may be the original naming of this page (so there may be some circular logic at play). The name is fine as it is right now. Thegreatdr 18:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- Not only is it systematic bias, it is untrue. If you had said "2006 Thanksgiving Nor'easter", it would effectively mean the storm lasted and affected land only for one day. It lasted a lot longer than that. AstroHurricane001 18:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- This system's "name", from HPC, was SOUTHEASTERN COASTAL STORM. The NWS does not name extratropical cyclones. This description was chosen for our own archive, to differentiate different storms, and for potential users, so they know they are looking at information for the right system. Historically, if a name has been imposed on an extratropical cyclone in the United States, it has been by the media. Thegreatdr 18:55, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- So should an article be created called "2006 November North American Southeastern Coastal Storm, etc", and redirect to this article? I'm not sure if the "name" is official, even though it was given by NOAA. AstroHurricane001 19:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- Do we really need a name that long? It will be obvious to anyone hitting the article where this storm occurred. Besides, it reached peak intensity in the northeast Atlantic. Thegreatdr 17:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Just a side note, when it neared Europe, it was classified as European Windstorm Ornela. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 05:50, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Do we really need a name that long? It will be obvious to anyone hitting the article where this storm occurred. Besides, it reached peak intensity in the northeast Atlantic. Thegreatdr 17:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- So should an article be created called "2006 November North American Southeastern Coastal Storm, etc", and redirect to this article? I'm not sure if the "name" is official, even though it was given by NOAA. AstroHurricane001 19:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- This system's "name", from HPC, was SOUTHEASTERN COASTAL STORM. The NWS does not name extratropical cyclones. This description was chosen for our own archive, to differentiate different storms, and for potential users, so they know they are looking at information for the right system. Historically, if a name has been imposed on an extratropical cyclone in the United States, it has been by the media. Thegreatdr 18:55, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
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