Talk:Law centre

Parking a reference

Guardian reprint from Proof on underfunding by HMG and RBKC in particular. ClemRutter (talk) 13:28, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, ClemRutter. I have just used it in the article. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:07, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Scope of this article

The exact scope of this article seems to deal with law centres as though they only exist in the United Kingdom, which is plain wrong. If this article deals with law centres as some sort of legal organisation structure in the United Kingdom, and that is the sole scope of this article, that would need to be the very first thing in the article (rather than what it is now, which generically describes probably hundreds of thousands organisations across the world). Even then though, I think much of this article could be put into one section on a larger law centre article that deals with non-UK organisations as well. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 06:23, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi ItsPugle, sorry to revert but if you look at Legal aid for the broader world coverage (still inadequate), and community legal centre (the Australian equivalent), and Legal aid in the United States#Community-based legal aid, you will see that there are different systems and different names for similar entities. It is probably possible and desirable to provide better signposting in the form of redirects among the articles, but you can't just go changing the lead of an article when its body says something different (remember WP:LEADFOLLOWSBODY), and un-bold a term which is used as a redirect. (p.s. Also note that it's a registered trademark in the UK.) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 06:39, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

@Laterthanyouthink: Hey, no worries! Legal aid, to me at least, feels like a concept of equitable access to legal representation rather than the actual organisations that provide such but I guess that's kind of the point. I'll go ahead and just do a slight tweak of the first sentence to emphasise the scope. Also, since the US' organisations doesn't have that similar of a name ("legal aid organisation"), I think it's best to also only include Australia's (since it's "community legal centre") as any other. Also, do you have any sources for "legal centre" being a registered trademark? That just seems very odd to me hahahaha ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 07:00, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, ItsPugle - legal aid is a broader concept, but that section in the US article is the only bit I could find about the equivalent in the US. I don't mind if you remove the US from the About template - I have added it under See also as well (which is a good idea because mobile versions don't show most of the templates). I removed the Citations template, after a quick google and adding to the bits which weren't cited. IMO it's always nicer to provide a few extra citations if it's not a huge job, than to slap one of those ugly templates at the top, which often seem to sit there way past their need for it! There's always room for improvement, but I'm finished with this for now - having spent quite a lot of time on the Australian one not long ago... Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:32, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

p.s. ItsPugle - Sorry, I lied. I just looked at the link parked above and am just going to insert that one into the article. Won't be long though. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:37, 15 September 2020 (UTC)