Talk:Le Livre noir du capitalisme

How can we improve this article

We need to improve the table of contents section, not delete it. We can start by including the authors, their background, and a brief chapter description. I think this will solve any issues we currently have. World Views (talk) 16:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

For improvement, see the other black books. Start with scholarly reviews in peer reviewed journals, and then move into critique articles.Fifelfoo (talk) 16:21, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Also, the translation of chapter titles is bloody appalling. Academic English takes, for chapter format, Arabic Numeral, Author, Chapter. Centuries are given in Arabic. There are a number of glaring non-English words. Fifelfoo (talk) 16:29, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Forgive me my English-fluent friend. I will take this into account. I guess we'll leave the article as it is until we fix your concern. World Views (talk) 16:48, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I looked over the French wiki and I'm trying to apply a similar framework to the article. I am taking author biography info from book information. There is still much to be done. World Views (talk) 18:01, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

This book appears to be very unscientific. The inclusion of WWII dead is puzzling. The National SOCIALISTS initiated the war in the European theatre so all the war dead there must be blamed on socialism, not capitalism. The Empire of Japan initiated the war in the Pacific theatre so the war dead there needs to be blamed on National Shintoism (i.e. a Theological Autocracy) again, not Capitalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.56.35 (talk) 17:52, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Regardless of how unscientific the book might be, nothing you said sounds any less so (at least not without references). BTW, just because the Nazis were officially called "socialist" means little about their actual policies or conduct; do you believe that all "democratic republics" are really democracies, or that "peoples' republics" are really republican? The names of many political parties/movements are so arbitrary as to be almost meaningless by themselves. Shanoman (talk) 00:46, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps you have heard of this quote?

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Pastor Martin Niemöller (source: "First they came for the socialists..." | The US Holocaust Memorial Museum )

Hitler leaned on the rich industrialists and PRIVATIZED the previously socialized banks and key industries to the war effort in 1933, as well as foreign investors like Avril Harriman and George Bush's dad, Prescott. That wound up being pretty smart, because the USA had pulled out of the various loan forgiveness plans (Dawes, Young) after the stock market crash of 1929 - before which the Nazi party only had 3% of the vote, and trending downward.

Hitler had the few remaining socialists in Nazi leadership killed during the Night of Long Knives, in 1934. If you would like to know some history, give this a read. Were the Nazis Socialists? | Britannica

Oh.. just realized I am responding to an anonymous IP. Oh well.

I initially just came to ask the question of whether there is a WP that deals with correcting commonly believed falsehoods?

I mention that partially because I found it striking that the article here is about 2 thousand characters long, as opposed to the paltry 70 thousand written about the Black Book of Communism, whose exaggerations have become a staple of many people in the USA and anti-Communists worldwide. (Googling "100 million Communism" finds 10.2 million pages as hits.) I apologize for the meandering comment here. Know Einstein (talk) 18:26, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Al though the Nazis weren't traditional socialists, they were absolutely not capitalists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.215.191 (talk) 20:46, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

This article is about what the book states and what people have written and published about it. it is accepted that national socialism is not socialism, and that nazi germany's economy was primarily capitalist, except, generally, when redistributing the wealth of jews/homosexuals/communists/socialists/etc. to nazi's, and when the private sector was failing to provide for the needs of the german war machine. We can't go rewriting the book. If you can find an article that criticizes the inclusion of nazis in this book's figures, that could be added to page.AnieHall (talk) 05:58, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Views versus Contents

I have read the "complaints" and answers in the section above. These discussions has no place with this wiki-article. The Wiki article is ONLY explaining what is presented in the book. It has nothing to do with what is wrong, what is right or what anyone might agree with or not. It is very simple.

(and no I dont agree with everything in this book myself)

RhinoMind (talk) 01:57, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Twice the same names

First - names of the authors, later under Content.Xx236 (talk) 06:23, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

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Can somebody link to de:Schwarzbuch Kapitalismus

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Narvalo (talk • contribs) 10:41, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

@Narvalo: It's already there in the 'See also' section. What are you requesting to be done exactly? –Vipz (talk) 10:54, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Ok, I was wrong!Narvalo (talk) 12:18, 20 April 2023 (UTC)