Talk:Lee Chapman

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Allegations of spousal abuse: I would never had heard of this chap had he not been accused of spousal abuse, and as such I feel it is valid to include a reference to them. However another user (Dan1980) has removed these references twice; the second one included weblinks to reports of the allegations, and his wife's denial that such assaults took place. Dan1980, please list here why you consider these references to be vandalism. I am open to reasoned arguments.

Dan1980's exact comment, accusing me of vandalism.

"Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Lee Chapman. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Dan1980 21:05, 9 July 2006 (UTC)" This is Dan1980's accusation of vandalism. I feel that if you check my original posts, they do not qualify as vandalism. TescoCookies 18:49, 10 July 2006 UTC

Magnus Pyke chipping in his 2 cents

I think that to include his accusations of Wifebeating are perfectly valid. I know little about football, but I have heard of him for the simple reason that he allegedly hits women. At the end of the day, the news reported it so it should be on the information about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MagnusPyke (talk • contribs)

Me too. I watch football and Chapman was a well known player. But he was nothing special, and he would be forgotten about now if it were not for the allegagtions against him. His wife claims she was injured after having sex - at the least that should be included. 82.35.59.204 07:31, 28 October 2007 (UTC) 07:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Response

Both edits were very badly written. The first cited no sources and the second linked to a single article in which Leslie Ash clearly denies the allegations. The second edit contained contradicting statements making it nonsensical, and I therefore would class this as vandalism.

If you can write a mature, professional section regarding the allegations then I would be happy to leave the comments in the article, however as they were the comments failed on some or all of the following policies and guidelines:

• Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons
• Wikipedia:Libel
• Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not
• Wikipedia:Neutral point of view
• Wikipedia:Citing sources

By the way, I find it very suspicious that two new user accounts have been set up within minutes of each other and that their only contributions are on this talk page and the same article (The Law of the Playground).

My advice to you "both" would be to thoroughly read Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles and the above mentioned policies and then re-submit your comments in a manner that is suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. Dan1980 19:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Two people

We totally are two people, dude! Anyway, checking it now...

It was not libellous; it was true, and had cited sources to back it up, thus also did not fall foul of the Biographies ruling on negative material (if, indeed, not being charged with assault is a negative). I find nothing in the What Wikik Is Not section that has been contravened; likewise NPOV. Is this about the fact that I provided only two cited sources? Would you like more? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.76.56 (talk • contribs)

Stupid Boy, Pyke

I don't know what was said originally, but surely highlighting accusations is perfectley acceptible? At the end of the day - he was accused of it. Therefore it should be part of his biography, should it not ? --MagnusPyke 09:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Jade Goody

There's lots of allegations included on the J. Goody page that have been levelled at her over the years. Maybe this would be a good place to look to get some sort of idea of how to approach L. Chapman's.

I was a big fan of Chapman as a footballer and it's a shame that these things needs to be included in an article which focusses on his football career. But I understand people's arguments for including them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luke-Samual Ezekiel Cullen (talk • contribs)

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