Talk:Cannabis in Uruguay

North Korea?

Why is Uruguay considered the "first country" to legalize all this? Isn't cannabis completely legal in North Korea? [Soffredo] 22:59, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Good question. I think it's because North Korea does not consider cannabis a drug. The fact that the whole chain of cultivation, sell, and consumption went from illegal to legal in Uruguay makes it a first time event. ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 02:03, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was move per request.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:10, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

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Legality of cannabis in Uruguay → Cannabis in Uruguay – "Legality of" is too precise, and there are no other articles of the proposed name. George Ho (talk) 22:18, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

• This could probably be enshrined as an example of WP:CONCISE. Strong support Red Slash 05:51, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

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International reaction.

The UN declaring the move "illegal" strikes me as notable enough to be included, along with some more details of international reaction. I would do it myself but am not really well-versed in this kind of international affairs stuff and am likely to show my ignorance. 75.156.68.21 (talk) 07:03, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

What this refers to is 'breaching' the conventions that exist for drug control/prohibition. The conventions are 'enforced' by suborganisations of the World Health Organisation (WHO), all based in Vienna. All countries who have ratified the Conventions (probably all who are members of the WHO) have to report annually that all is well with prohibition. This explains the contradiction between State laws in the US (some decriminalisation) and US federal law that saw State-legal outlets raided by Federal agents. It doesn't seem to be enforced strictly at the moment, but could be again at any time.

If you think that these conventions are international law which can never be modified, then obviously Uruguay is acting illegally. If you think a country must be able to use her sovereignty to write laws that suit the country, then Uruguay is non-compliant which you could call illegal, although it is a long time that someone voted for these international conventions and laws. With the bar hung so high, i.e. in practice impossibility of change to such conventions, Uruguay's laws are legitimate, I guess, but still illegal under international 'law'. It could well mean that a country would be kicked out of the WHO or the whole of the UN if such a convention is breached, but one-way roads are not acceptable (to most of us). Someone should verify if the WHO really does kick you out if you rebel against one of their conventions. North Korea is outside the international organisations and can do what they like. The organisations in Vienna who manage governments adhering to the conventions are:

INCB (International Narcotis Control Board, www.incb.org), 'the independent and quasi-judicial organ monitoring the implementation of the United Nations drug control conventions'

UNFDAC = United Nations Fund for Drug Abuse Control

http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/drug-prevention-and-treatment/index.html = UN Office on drugs and crime

ICDAIT = International Conference on Drug Abuse and illegal trafficking

144.136.192.79 (talk) 04:44, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

North Korea

That country's not banning cannabis has no relevance to this article, let alone in its opening (which should be a summary of the contents). The sentence where it had been inserted talked about Uruguay legalizing cannabis but N Korea has never legalized cannabis so I have removed the material and reference. We need to stay on topic in this article♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 14:27, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

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