Talk:Lights Off

Proposed merge of Eurovision Song Contest 2022 with Lights Off (We Are Domi song)

Country, nominations and songs have their own sections on Eurovision Song Contest 2022 Whiteguru (talk) 21:07, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

@Whiteguru: where exactly do songs have their own subsections in that article? There is only a table giving an overview. Personally I'd agree with merging but with Czech Republic in the Eurovision Song Contest. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 21:14, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Isn't it standard practice for each participant and each song to have their own article? Granfcanuon (talk) 22:58, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Participating in the Eurovision Song Contest is in no way a guarantee of notability. Multiple of these articles have not survived AfDs. WP:MUSICBIO criterion #9 says only 1st, 2nd or 3rd is enough. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 23:26, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

The only Eurovision songs I’ve seen that don’t have their own articles are Morocco 1980 and Bulgaria 2022? It seemed like standard practice to me? Maybe I’m wrong, but I thought this was notable enough, as almost every single Eurovision song, from 1956 to now has its own article.Nascar9919 (talk) 00:31, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

That's probably because most Eurovision songs end up charting, which means they meet criterion #1 or WP:NSONG, or there are other reasons for notability. After a small sample search I did quickly find a bunch of Eurovision song stubs that I think are probably not notable, although no one has requested a merge yet (see also WP:ONEEVENT). ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 00:47, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

In any case, it should be merged with Czech Republic in the Eurovision Song Contest 2022 rather than with Eurovision Song Contest 2022. 〜イヴァンスクルージ九十八［IvanScrooge98］（会話） 07:49, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

There are a few other examples of songs not having their own articles, and which are currently redirects: e.g. Cyprus 2008 and Bulgaria 2008. I would suggest many other song articles out there do not fulfil the notability criteria and should also be redirected, but that is a different conversation. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 09:52, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

If it's not notable enough to have its own article yet, I second @IvanScrooge98 in suggesting it should be merged with Czech Republic in the Eurovision Song Contest 2022 rather than with Eurovision Song Contest 2022. Aris Odi ❯❯❯ talk 13:10, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

I redirected this article to Czech Republic in the Eurovision Song Contest 2022. Is there anything in this article though that isn't already in the Czech Republic article though? ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 11:42, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

@Jochem van Hees, @IvanScrooge98. I unredirected the article as it has now charted in Czechia Tai123.123 (talk) 23:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

In its current format I would oppose hosting this article for now as it mostly duplicates what is already hosted on Czech Republic in the Eurovision Song Contest 2022. #91 in a radio chart hardly makes the song notable enough to warrant its own article as well in my opinion, so I would propose reverting to the redirect. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 08:10, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Sims2aholic8. I'll add some non duplicated info like Lyrics and composition soon Tai123.123 (talk) 16:05, 15 February 2022 (UTC)