Talk:Linearity
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Initial comments
editThe linearity of the function f(x)=mx+c over the reals is controversial.
- Let's get a closer look: all entities in Reals; just c may be 0...
- Superposition is not always satisfied:
- f(y+z)=m(y+z)+c is equal to f(y)+f(z)=my+c+mz+c=m(y+z)+2c iff c=0.
- Homogeneity is not always satisfied:
- af(x)=a(mx+c)=amx+ac is equal to f(ax)=amx+c iff c=0.
jimmer_lactic
- I've added that that's a different usage of the term linear. I hope that helps! -- Oliver P. 22:02 5 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- As jimmer_lactic showed, the definition of linearity in the introduction is wrong, and should be removed. The definition in the intro may be correct according to common parlance but this is not a dictionary. My suggestion is to keep only the mathematical definition, and move the common parlance definition to the wiktionary. Some of the other definitions do not need to be deleted but can be moved/created as their own pages. So we have one page for linearity in math, and one for linearity in art etc.
rasmuslarsen
Not true for all finite fields that superposition imples linearity: just for the prime fields.
Charles Matthews 06:37, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Linearis?
editI thought linear came from "linea" (line). 62.189.34.9 20:53, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
multimedia linearity and non-linearity
editCan you assist me in what is linearity and non-linearity when talking about multimedia contents, please?
Thank you for your support.
--- Linearity in multimedia or "narrative linearity", means that there's only one path from the beginning of the story to the end. We imagine it progresses in a "straight line". In a computer game on the other hand, the path may branch out. You may get into the castle by knocking down the guard, climbing in a window or bribe your way in. There may also be more than one ending. Based on your choices, perhaps the evil king is overthrown, perhaps he convinces you to support him, perhaps you die.
This "non-linearity" is not purely a multimedia feature. A sci-fi book series was published in the 70's or 80's where you jumped to different pages depending on your choice of actions.
I leave it to the main contributors to incorporate this into the main text.
Would be nice to see a page describing terminal based linearity, independent linearity, and zero based linearity.
Maths rating and dab
editI've added a rating for the maths content of this page. The other content should probably be moved out and linked via Linear (disambiguation). Geometry guy 15:54, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I definitely agree that the non mathematical applications of linearity should be moved elsewhere. The discussions of art and military strategy don't fit. This is an encyclopedia not a dictionary and we should divide terms accordingly, and not group them simply because they are the same word and loosely related ideas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.169.175.170 (talk) 21:20, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Boolean functions
editA recent edit to Linear feedback shift register brought it to my attention that Linear#Boolean functions has no citation. A "linear" function on Z/2Z could mean linear as in Linear function#Analytic geometry, in which case both T=even F=odd and F=even T=odd are linear, or linear as in Linear function#Vector space, in which case only F=even T=odd is called linear and T=even F=odd is called affine. Can anyone dig up a citation for which is the accepted definition of "linear"? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 00:49, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
- As a response to that edition of mine, I googled for references and found it ambigus! The following exerts from two arbitrary sources show both definitions:
- * The function f is linear if f(x1,...,xn) = ⊕xi for some S ⊆ {1,...,n} [1]
- * The non-linearity of f is the minimum of the distances between f and any affine function. [2]
- First one only identifies XOR as a linear function that is according to the linearity in vector space. The second one accepts any affine transformation. Algebraic linearity in vector space is the first idea that we assume for definition of linearity for bolean functions. But when I was studying coding and came across that LFSR article in wikipedia, I found that in many sources for binary codes and functions the condition of affinity is regarded as linearity as it is sufficient for the definition of linear codes and functions such as linear feedback shift register. As I am not a mathematician, decision is up to specialist editors. --slash (talk) 23:48, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
Requested move
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The result of the move request was: moved to Linearity. Favonian (talk) 11:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Linear → Linearity — This article addresses the property of linearity and its effects on objects that instantiate that property. Thus, I think the article should be moved to "linearity", with "linear" redirecting there. (Currently, the situation is the reverse.) Augurar (talk) 06:46, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Support; article titles should be nouns where possible. Powers T 15:17, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
- Support. In complete accordance with WP:NOUN, as has already been mentioned. I can't think of any reason not to change it. BlindMic (talk) 02:11, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
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Linearity in Electronics
editSpecifically regarding "operating region." The page used to say(paraphrased): that as the input signal increased, distortion can be formed(true) because the system is taken out of the linear region of the transfer function (ambiguous).
I removed the second ambiguous statement because it is strictly not true. A transfer function has many definitions and many are only defined on a linear system. Saying a transfer function "is taken out of the linear region" is not clear. A nonlinear system can have input-output characteristics with linear and non-linear regions. For high input signal amplitudes the transfer characteristic can exhibit more nonlinear behavior than at low input signal amplitudes. The article does not distinguish these circumstances from traditional transfer functions defined on a linear system, making the statement as previously written ambiguous.
Boolean symbol for "and"
editThis article uses the symbol ⊕ for the concept denoted ∧ in the referenced article titled "Boolean algebra." Please either define terms here or change them to agree with the other article. Burressd (talk) 15:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)