Talk:Lise Meitner/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 04:43, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

This one's of decent length, I'll try to see if I can get through it in one chunk or not.

Lead

• "She was praised by Albert Einstein as the "German Marie Curie" - Not in the body. It's cited in the lead, so it's not a major issue, but if it's important enough for the lead, it can get slung into the body somewhere as well.

  Y Slotted it in down the bottom. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• Link isotope, it's a touch technical.

  Y Linked radioactive isotope. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Education

• "Women were not allowed to attend public institutions of higher education in Vienna until 1897, and she completed her final year in 1892" - Her final year of what in 1892? Evidently not higher education, as that wasn't allowed until 5 years after she completed her last year.

  Y added "of school". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• " In July 1901 the girls sat and external examination at the Akademisches Gymnasium." - This just doesn't read right to me.

  Y Deleted "d". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Friedrich Wilhelm University

• Rutherford was just linked at the very end of the previous section; I don't think it's really necessary to link him twice in three paragraphs.

  Y Unlinked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Hahn the same age as herself " - Maybe this is an engvar thing, but I feel like there ought to be a "was" in there

  Y There ought to be. Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

World War I

• "Meanwhile, she completed the both work on the beta ray spectrum that she had begun before the war with Hahn and Baeyer, and her own study of the uranium decay chain" - Does the first "the" add anything to this? It doesn't in the variant of English I speak.

  Y Should be "both the" Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• "not only Hahn but most of the students, laboratory assistants and technicians had been called up, so Meitner had to" - Not everyone's gonna know that called up here means called to active military service

  Suggestions welcome. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• "In February, Meitner extracted 2 grams of silicon dioxide (SiO2) from 21 grams of pitchblende. She set 1.5 grams aside and added a tantalum pentafluoride (TaF5) carrier to the other 0.5 grams," - For this and the other weight measurements, use the {{convert}} template to provide conversions to ounces. I'm a reasonably well-educated American, and I have only a foggy idea of what an ounce generally amounts to

  That's because there are multiple types of ounce. In this case, the conversion to US customary would be to drams. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• "The export of uranium was forbidden due to wartime restrictions, but" - So by export, are you meaning export from Austria into Germany?

  Y Yes. added "from Austria". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Beta radiation

• The caption of the image in this section names who all is in the front row, but there's one more person in the row than the sum of listed names + Meitner

  Looks fine to me: Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Women were granted the right of habilitation in Prussia in 1920" - Can we get a gloss for habilitation

  Already linked above in the bit about Hahn. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• "He physics section became larger," - Is this supposed to be "Her" or "The"?

  Y Her. Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Escape from Germany

• "He gave her a diamond ring he had inherited from his mother in case of emergency" - Is he Hahn or Rosbaud?

  Y Hahn. Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Later life

• "For her friends in Sweden, Siegbahn's obstruction of Meitner's Nobel Prize was the final straw" - it's mentioned that Swedish scientists stopped her from getting it, but not that Siegbahn specifically was involved

• Y Added a bit more about this. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• "The professorship fell through when the Ministry for Education, Tage Erlander, unexpectedly became the Prime Minister of Sweden, but Borelius and Klein ensured that she had the salary of a professor, if not the title" - it's unclear why Erlander becoming PM stopped her from getting the title

  He was no longer the minister for Education. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

References

• Ref 145 (book of members) isn't working for me, although it's a redirction error, not a 404, so it may just be on my end or a temporary outage

  Y Restored from archive. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• Ref 151 (Hahn PDF) is dead

  Y Updated the link. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• Rhodes appears to have something off in the subscription required parameter

  Y The spam link should not be overriding the wiki-link. Removed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• Worldcat gives an OCLC for Yruma

  Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox

• All three of her doctoral students are only mentioned there and need cited

  Commented them out for the moment. Will have to look them up.

• Ditto for the other students
• You list Exner as her advisor, but wasn't Benndorf involved, too?

  Y Yes, Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

• You say she was an Austrian citizen until 1949, but didn't she lose it in 1938?

  She became a German citizen. But Meitner never claimed German citizenship, and travelled on her Austrian passport. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

That's it from me. Hog Farm _Bacon 00:15, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Okay, so I think this one meets the GA criteria as is. I also think it's pretty close to the A-Class requirements, although I'd have some additional comments at that level, mostly in the way of the commented-out students and a bit of prose polishing. Good work. Passing. Hog Farm _Bacon 01:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)