Talk:List of speeches given by Adolf Hitler

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Please add any of Adolf Hitler's speeches to Wikisource and link them to the main article page. Thank you WritersCramp 02:15, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Seperate article?

This seems more of a Wikisource article. Ulritz 16:14, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

wikisource: no speeches

The links to EN Wikisource for the speeches point to unborn pages. --Walter 21:06, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

• I did some digging, and it seems they were deleted due to missing translator information. I'll remove all but Address to the Reichstag. --Phirazo 02:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Additional Speech

There's another speech Hitler gave on 29 April 1937 at Ordensburg, Vogelsang. This one is not yet on the list; it was a secret speech, but the audio recording was not destroyed during WOII and still exists (according to the Dutch book Nazi-Duitsland en de Joden. --62.194.194.24 (talk) 17:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was consensus for move. Regarding the grammatical use of "given", it appears to be an accepted usage. For example, The New York Times has used the phrase in 402 articles.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:25, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

Hi. Does anyone else find this article's current title, "List of Adolf Hitler speeches" either ambiguous (in the sense that it doesn't indicate whether the speeches are by or are about Hitler, or both) and/or ungrammatical ("Adolf Hitler" isn't an adjective)..? If so, how about "List of speeches given by Adolf Hitler" or possibly something else? The same query about "List of Adolf Hitler books" is posted here. Sardanaphalus (talk) 00:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose rename: I believe the title is appropriate for the article. It is succinct and clear, no need for a change. Green Squares (talk) 20:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
  • It may be succinct, but, unfortunately, it's ambiguous, as described above. (It's also ungrammatical, but that's secondary.) Do you see the ambiguity? Sardanaphalus (talk) 21:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
    I've now linked this discussion from Wikipedia:Requested moves in the hope of collecting some more opinions.
• Support move to List of speeches given by Adolf Hitler, List of speeches by Adolf Hitler, or similar. Definite improvement. Andrewa (talk) 14:58, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support move. Either of Andrewa's suggestions are fine. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 01:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support: Absolutely, Sardanaphalus is correct. The current title is ungrammatical, confusing, and such a small change would make it just that much more encyclopaedic. Either of Andrewa's suggestions would be ok, although I lean more towards "List of speeches given by Adolf Hitler". I do not know enough about the inner workings of his government office, but can someone else confirm absolutely that he actually wrote the speeches that he gave? Because if not, then "List of speeches by Adolf Hitler" could indicate authorship where authorship is not guaranteed. I also note that there was a previous move, "List of Adolf Hitler's speeches". I suppose that would work as well. Maedin\^talk 07:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

  The "given" in "List of speeches given by Adolf Hitler" would dodge the need to confirm authorship. (It's an intriguing query, though.) Sardanaphalus (talk) 09:48, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

• Comment. While I support and commend a grammatical change, as the speeches should be possessive of the orator and should either be ...Hitler's speeches or ...of Adolph Hitler. To be a nitpick, speeches are delivered, presented or orated, not wikt:given. I would prefer a form of wikt:deliver. Neutral observer only. -- billinghurst (talk) 02:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support move to unambiguous and grammatical title; prefer List of speeches by Adolf Hitler as most succinct option. Noted point re authorship above ... I think "given" is OK, "delivered" feels as if it emphasises non-authorship, though this is illogical! PamD (talk) 14:57, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
• Support I'm not sure if "given" is the right word either, but I absolutely support the rename of "List of ys xes" to "List of xes of/from/by y", per this related discussion I started four days ago: WT:NC#Naming conventions for lists Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 15:08, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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Someone just copy Archive.org's list of Hitler speeches

This link should help: https://archive.org/details/Hitler_Speeches 178.24.101.44 (talk) 19:19, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Hitler and Brittain

When British politicians alleged that Hitler was an enemy of Britain Hitler sent a letter to Lord Rothermere stating that he had presented between four and five thousand speeches and that none of them contained anything against Britain or its interests. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.129.96.235 (talk) 21:20, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

dead link

this link to a puported wiki thing is dead

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zeughaus:_Address_to_the_Heldengedenktag

--23.119.204.117 (talk) 18:34, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Definition of the term "speech"

What is meant here by the term "speech"? In particular, do the various addresses recorded in the "Table Talk" archive not count as speeches? If so, on what basis are they excluded? Because they were not sufficiently public? Some clarification of the scope of this list would, I think, be helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by APurcell1967 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Speech, noun: "a formal address or discourse delivered to an audience." I personally would say that if you're sitting down it is almost certainly not a speech (too informal). If you're standing up, it is probably a speech (but not if you're just standing in a room talking to somebody etc.). If you're standing behind a lectern and there are several (=more than two but fewer than many) people listening, it's a speech unless there's some very extraordinary contraindicators.

So table talk, no.

But I'm not sure the "Obersalzberg speech" of 22 August 1939 qualifies. Hilter was probably sitting down I guess, and I suppose the audience was pretty small. It might be considered an "address" rather than a speech. But, all the sources call it a speech, so it's valid to include here. Herostratus (talk) 08:40, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Speech when and where?

Here it is a brief quote

"Sie haben früher alle gelacht, diese Juden. Sie haben das für einen Spaß gehalten. Ja, sie lachen heute nicht mehr. Sie wissen, es ist ein blutiger Ernst geworden."

Rough translation "Earlier they all laughed, these jews. They thought it was a joke. But today they don't laugh anymore. They know it's become bloody serious." Famemsm (talk) 13:04, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

January 30, 1939. Herostratus (talk) 18:17, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

bolded links

I bolded links to existing articles (and did some minor format cleanups). It's a pretty busy list and I think the ones that have articles should stand out more. Open to discussion, Herostratus (talk) 08:41, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Wait, what? Serial numbers?

Each speech is given a number, which fine, except am I supposed to renumber the list by hand every time I add a speech? I am not going to do that, rather I am going to delete that column. It doesn't really serve much purpose anyway. Herostratus (talk) 07:20, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

The serial numbers can be misleading because many speeches are missing in between. I will delete them. Friedolf (talk) 11:37, 21 September 2024 (UTC)