Talk:List of Airbus A220 orders and deliveries

Proposed deletion

A list of orders for a jet that has barely even been built is hardly stuff for an encyclopaedia, may even get removed from an article about the jet, let alone as a stand-alone list!Petebutt (talk) 03:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Instead of having a lengthy list in the article, here it can be widened (with specific fields like the commitments table). As soon as the orderbook will grow it will be easier to integrate in the main article a small table "latest orders" by redirecting to this page for the full list. --CeruttiPaolo (talk) 09:37, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Furthermore the table in the main article may be confusing, this page is clear and self-explainatory. And then let's delete the List of Airbus A350 orders, also that aircraft is barely even built. --CeruttiPaolo (talk) 14:32, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Per Undue detail and "what Wikipedia is not", I'd say it was ripe for deletion. GraemeLeggett (talk) 12:37, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree with deleting it. If any specific orders are notable they can be added to the main article. - Ahunt (talk) 14:04, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Agree completely with the 'Prod'. WP:NOTEVERYTHING is the guideline. Although apparently well referenced it is a non-encyclopaedic subject for Wikipedia (but may be used somewhere else). Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 20:31, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I performed an "update" to the Orders&deliveries section in the main article, since this one will be probably deleted as per WP:NOTEVERYTHING. Check if it fits and then we can proceed with the deletion. --CeruttiPaolo (talk) 14:21, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Disagree with this prod per article size and size rule. It seems like cherry-picking, selective deletion. There's List of Airbus A350 orders and List of Airbus A320neo orders which totally fit Petebutt's rationale yet none of those were deleted (or you expressing your intention to prod those articles in the foreseeable future). Furthermore, List of Airbus A380 orders and deliveries and List of Boeing 787 orders and deliveries were created years before actual plane leaves the factory. If you wish to suggest a site-wide changes like this, take it to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 16:06, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Totally disagree with proposed deletion. This sort of information is very difficult to find and is one of the many things that Wikipedia is totally excellent at. Also, as others have noted, order tallies are allowed for other aircraft, they're widely used and appreciated, and should be allowed for this one, too. Santamoly (talk) 23:15, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Undue

I had a read of WP:UNDUE...

“ Neutrality requires that each article or other page in the mainspace fairly represents all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint. Giving due weight and avoiding giving undue weight means that articles should not give minority views as much of, or as detailed, a description as more widely held views. ”

Out in the real world, there's a range of sources which specifically cover CSeries orders (and not just a passing mention); so I don't see a problem of undue emphasis here. The topic is certainly notable. bobrayner (talk) 20:28, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

How about looking at it as undue emphasis on orders rather than aircraft design and history of operation with this article acting as a POV fork for content not accepted in the aircraft article? (probably not a concept that stacks up) GraemeLeggett (talk) 20:41, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

It would be hard to frame it as a pov-fork - it's not as though this is some controversial topic and an editor created this article to push a POV which they failed to get past the community over at Bombardier CSeries. Some forks are just forks; History of the hamburger is just an article on a particular aspect of hamburgers, rather than some "undue" emphasis on their history which neglects their ingredients or their worldwide consumption. bobrayner (talk) 21:50, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Operators table

For everyone who's intrested in developing the article, please be aware that I have prepared a "deliveries and operators table". Please share your opinion on the table/ways to improve it and whether it should be implemented when first deliveries will start (my opinion) or should it be already positioned within the article. You can find the table in my sandbox: User:CeruttiPaolo/sandbox. --CeruttiPaolo (talk) 20:59, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Furthermore, where should the above mentioned table fit within the article? Before the orders paragraph, after orders but before commitments, right before the orders/committments/deliveries graph or at the end? Please share Your opinions. One more thing, should the article be renamed (when deliveries start) "List of Bombardier CSeries orders and deliveries" like List of Airbus A380 orders and deliveries and List of Boeing 787 orders and deliveries or should it remain like it is now? --CeruttiPaolo (talk) 12:49, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

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Notes not loading

It seems the notes don't want to load on my iPad when I click on them; I can go down to the "Notes" section and find them there, but I can't click on them in the article, as you usually can with notes/refs. We should probably change it to {{efn-ua}}. I only have my iPad right now, though, so it would take me a long time to do this, compared to on a PC where it wouldn't take long. —Biscuit-in-Chief ^{(Talk – Contribs)} 21:48, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Orders sortable section has wrong data

The "Orders sortable, presorted by date" section now has a lot of garbage data and is totally out of sync with published Airbus numbers (and even with other sections of this Wikipedia article).

For example, the "Orders and deliveries by year" table currently shows -7 net orders for 2019 (which is correct), but if we add up the data from "Orders sortable" we get 39 net orders instead.

An obvious mistake is listing JetBlue as placing 70 new firm orders in 2019 when in reality they converted 10 options to 10 firm -- 70 is actually the total firm from 2018 (60) and 2019 (10). But even after fixing this, the numbers still don't reconcile with what Airbus reports, since there are other errors or ommisions. 218.250.163.74 (talk) 23:53, 17 December 2019 (UTC)