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Latest comment: 17 years ago6 comments3 people in discussion

The following people, it seems, we don't know about - so sources appreciated or whether they were or were not Czech or Jewish

This isn't the best source I could get, I know, but it says Benatzky was a "non-Jew" [1]
Actually that is a perfectly fine source. It's a "Product Description" by a reputable organization - either Amazon or whoever published that, so it's perfectly acceptable Mad Jack 22:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

The following people need sources that say they are Czech, and then sources that say they are Jewish. A lot of these probably belong on List of Hungarian Jews, List of Austrian Jews and - if we don't have this one yet - we should create "List of Bohemian Jews" and link to it from here.

Also want to make a note on Milos Forman - neither of his parents were Jewish - both were Protestants and were killed off by the Nazis for reasons not involving their Jewishness. Forman's natural father (he discovered after the war that Rudolf Forman was not his biological father) was Jewish, and the source that calls him half Jewish because of that fact is now listed with his name.Mad Jack 20:00, 29 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

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Latest comment: 18 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

"Moravian" is both a territorial as well as ethnic (see Moravians) term. What is meant by this in the article is ambiguous. Suggestion is to split the article in to two, perhaps along the lines of territory, if such is the intention, by making it "Jews from Moravia" rather than "Moravian Jews" and move "Czech Jews" maybe to a list of ethnicity or simply under the category Category:Czech Jews if it does not undergo renaming. 141.211.251.69 00:53, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

There's no ambiguity. If someone is described as Moravian in a good source, he or she is Moravian. I am very strongly against splitting this list; we need all Czech, Bohemian and Moravian Jews together.--Brownlee 11:55, 16 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

URLs

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Latest comment: 18 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

The citations here use mostly blind, uncaptioned URLs inside of <ref> tags. Kinda weird. See List of Jewish Fellows of the Royal Society (largely, though not quite entirely, cleaned in this respect as an illustration of how to do this better. And, yes, it is a lot of work, but it lets someone skim and see the general quality of the references, and also means that if a link goes dead there is still a chance to understand what was there and see if the page is now moved elsewhere. - Jmabel | Talk 22:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

OK, I'll see what I can do.--20.138.246.89 09:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

The names at the top of the page

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Latest comment: 15 years ago7 comments7 people in discussion

I see that these have been deleted and restored. They should stay for the present. They were put there when this was called "List of Czech Jews" and there were arguments about whether these people were Czech. The scope of this list has now been clarified so that it is unambiguously a geographical list. Thus many, probably most, of these people should be on the list.--Brownlee 19:51, 22 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Less complicated name for list

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If as stated above this list is now running on territory, it is pretty much unnecessary to put "Czech" and "Slovak" in the heading because regardless of what ethnicity the people were that were born in those territories, they will be on this list. If an ethnic Czech Jew is born abroad, then he/she does not merit inclusion in this list anymore than Americans of English descent would merit inclusion in List of English people. This doesn't seem to be the case for any of the names anyway. List of Jews from Bohemia, Moravia, and Slovakia would work better than this list, which is mixing ethnicities and territories together that don't always have a perfect one to one alignment. Furthermore, it would lessen the need for sources to call someone an ethnicity and rather only rely on birthplace. Agreed? 141.213.51.76 20:17, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Fine by me, but I've been loose about this all along. - Jmabel | Talk 02:37, 13 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
No, I think that this name is needed for clarity.--20.138.246.89 14:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
I'd support List of Czech and Slovak Jews, but List of Jews from Bohemia, Moravia, and Slovakia wouldn't work because it wouldn't cover Jews from western Czechoslovakia or the Czech Republic.--Newport 20:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

This is very clearly a geographic list of people born in a specified area and therefore it is wrong to delete names of people born in that area.--195.26.60.87 11:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

(Karpaten1 (talk) 01:34, 7 December 2008 (UTC)) Actually, in terms of ethnicity, virtually none of the people on this list considered themselves "Czechs" or "Slovaks" or "Czechoslovaks." They were either ethnic Jews, or Germans/Magyars of the Mosaic Religion. The whole article is absurd, a post-mortem hijacking of their ethnicity.Reply

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