Talk:List of European Commission portfolios
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I'll outline my intentions for this. Ages ago I tried to make sure there was a page for each commission portfolio, and hoped they'd grow. That has largely been fa failure and the articles are limp at best, usually filled with a Commissioner's mission statement and a list of office holders. For no other body does Wikipedia seek an article for every single minister/secretary etc. and considering that they change from one administration to the next that is wise. What I'd like to do is put the information on this one page and merge the articles into it except where the article actually stands alone. i.e. if the article is rubbish then it is merged, if it is good it is kept so I am not proposing to kill every single one, only the crap ones. Overview info, current commissioner, DG, list of commissioners and any other worth notes will go here. The "current commissioner" info will me shifted to that Commissioners bio where it ought to be. If you object to this, or would like to highlight articles that you think need to be kept because they are, or you think you can make them, full worthy articles, please say so now. It will take me a while go build up this article first.- J.Logan`t: 10:51, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- No replies yet so I'll put another round of comments on talk pages before I act, but the page here is essentially ready. Relevant info on all pages are wither here or on the persons page. Anything remaining is fluff I put in to pad it out - such as who their head of office was. I reiterate the arguments above and propose these be the only portfolios with independent articles;
- Definite;
- High Representative
- Enlargement and ENP
- External Aff.
- Trade
- Competition
- Agriculture
- Borderline;
- Home Affairs
- Justice
- Financial and Monetary Affairs
- Energy
- Environment
- Internal market
- Definite;
- Please reply soon, I'll start to put this into practice tomorrow perhaps if no one bothers to comment.- J.Logan`t: 19:56, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Oh and I would certainly like to merge in the Multilingualism, Health and Consumer Protection articles regardless of the proposals above. They are all defunct and minor. I put External Relations as a keep as that was a major important portfolio and we have lots of links to it.- J.Logan`t: 20:24, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- I think there should be a page for each commission portfolio. They can be improved over time. There are no deadlines on wikipedia. Snappy (talk) 18:52, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- Improved with what? No one attempts this level of detail for any other country, and nation states centuries old can't get enough detail. They keep changing titles, merging and splitting, each commission anyway so every now and then a huge chunk of data becomes a defunct article or an organisational headache. Is the Commissioner for Climate Action even notable?- J.Logan`t: 19:34, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- The United States attempts this level of detail. Other countries change cabinet positions / gov. departments etc., look at the UK changes in gov. departments since 1997. I would think that the Commissioner for Climate Action is notable enough for its own article. When a title is changed or defunct, then the article becomes historic not useless. Snappy (talk) 17:43, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
- Improved with what? No one attempts this level of detail for any other country, and nation states centuries old can't get enough detail. They keep changing titles, merging and splitting, each commission anyway so every now and then a huge chunk of data becomes a defunct article or an organisational headache. Is the Commissioner for Climate Action even notable?- J.Logan`t: 19:34, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- The portfolios changes are of great importance, they are not small details. In EU, it shapes greatly the political agenda and the way issues are treated, specially when topics are new (at EU level, not in itself) : e.g. if Migration issues are located in a DG and fights against discrimination are located in another DG. Unfortunately, it is difficult to find information as the DG themselves do not document changes (or at least not in a friendly way :). And literature can be scarce for DG of less importance. By the way , EU is not a country, so I don't see the point of comparison with UK. And EU is quite new in many topics, so I don't see anything infeasible there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeSophie (talk • contribs) 08:49, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
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