Talk:List of U.S. Highways in Utah

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Did You Know
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that there are over three thousand miles of interstate highways and U.S. Routes in the state of Utah?

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Congrats on the DYK, Ad! I logged on before I could see it on the main page, but I saw it on the archive and it looks mighty impressive. Oh yeah, thanks for the Member of the month nom :) CL18:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

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Special Routes

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Starting with a series of ip edits in December 2021, the "special routes" section has been significantly expanded. While I can confirm most of these are legit (Specifically US 189A, US40A and US50A are well documented routes that I'm surprised were omitted prior to the December 2021 additions) some of these are suspect. Probably the most suspect is a business route for Cisco, Utah, a ghost town. Furthermore, as is documented in the history section of Utah State Route 128, as soon as the road in question was no longer needed for mainline US-6, it was relinquished to the county. Another suspect is BUS 191 through Helper, Utah. If this ever was signed it would be briefly. US-191 was commissioned in 1981, which is after the 1977 route renumbering which eliminated concurrences in Utah code. As such while there is a US-191 signed in the area today, in Utah code there has never been a US-191 through helper, so why sign an alternate route? Unless someone can provide a source I'm removing the ones that are highly suspect. I have the official highway maps for 1974, 1983 and 1986. I'll check those before deleting. The temp routes are curious. They seem logical, and I can confirm that the Price River canyon has flooded (which is what these temp routes would bypass). So logically they could exist. However, given during the Thistle disaster, which resulted in US-6 being closed for nearly a year, and required a 100 mile long re-route, was signed DETOUR US-6 and not TEMP US-6, I'm skeptical. Dave (talk) 05:16, 14 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

So checking my map archive (and if anybody has more please add) I've been able to confirm using these sources
  • Google Street View
  • UTC -Utah Travel Council Map. Is undated however appears to have been drafted early 1970s. Shows pre-1977 route numbers and shows US-30S, US91 as existing as well as the original route of US-191 via Tremonton. Curiously map shows Interstate Highway segments as completed that would not be built until the 1980s, and has some drawn to a different alignment than was actually built (I-80 in west SLC;I-70 near Salina). Also found a map error, the unfinished portion of I-80 through Echo Canyon is labeled "US 30/181", should be "US 30S/189". However, seems to be otherwise reliable and is more detailed than the UDOT maps. Curiously does not show a west side Helper Bypass, even though this was built in the 1950s.
  • UDOT74,79,83,07 - Official UDOT maps with year noted

Here is what I found:

  • US 6 Business Cisco - No map shows this, they all show as county road
  • Temp US6/50 in Price Canyon - No maps show this, all show county road.
  • US 191 Business Helper - confirmed by Google Street Map, UDOT07 (though curiously not UDOT83 even though it shows the new routing of US191, not enough detail to show designations)
  • US 89/91 ALT in SLC, Farmington and Ogden. - UTC (and to a lesser extint UDOT74) confirms these were routed as highways, not streets, but does not have enough detail to show route designations
  • US 189 ALT - Confirmed UTC and UDOT 74
  • Foothill BLVD US40-UTC US40ALT-UDOT74
  • 2100 South - US50ALT-UTC,UDOT79
  • West side Helper Bypass - not shown on UTC, all others show the bypass as existing and the old route as as highway.
  • West side Price Bypass - First shows as under construction UDOT83, no designation for old route.
  • Old US-89 between SLC/Farmington - all maps I have show as SR-106, none show as US-89ALT
  • Modern SR-32 via Kamas: US-189ALT - UTC, UDOT74 US-189, UDOT79,83

Dave (talk) 19:39, 15 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Did you take a look at WP:USRD/AASHTO yet? We just have a handful of years in the 1960s that aren't indexed on the page, although they are transcribed on Wikisource. Imzadi 1979  20:30, 15 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the reminder those exist now. I'll definitely check, but probably not today.Dave (talk) 20:48, 15 July 2022 (UTC)Reply