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Table disagrees with the source

Latest comment: 3 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

This article states that the listing is based on the 2021 Forbes listing at https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/#version:static_country:Ireland (you need to select Ireland to actually get the listing by country) but that does not agree with our table. For example, Forbes lists Pallonji Mistry ($14.6 B), John Grayken ($7.6 B), Denis O'Brien ($4.6 B), John Collison ($3.2 B), and Patrick Collison ($3.2 B) ahead of John Dorrance III ($2.6 B) (the first entry on our table), and John Armitage ($2.6 B) tied with Dorrance. ~~None of these six appear on our list.~~Four of these do not appear on our list, and the Collisons incorrectly appear at Nos. 5 and 6 with $1.9 B. Either our list is wrong, or there is some other criterion being used that is not specified.

If the criterion is citizenship, where is the source showing us that the entries listed by Forbes under "Ireland" do not have Irish citizenship? The top two Forbes entries both have Irish citizenship according to Forbes: Pallonji Mistr lives in Mumbai, India but is a citizen of Ireland, and "Grayken is from a suburb south of Boston, but he renounced his U.S. citizenship for tax purposes in the 1990s and took Irish citizenship." He lives in London.

If the mysterious criterion is residence in Ireland, then please check the third missing entry from the Forbes list: Denis O'Brien is both a citizen of Ireland and a resident (Dublin). I have not bothered to check the rest of the missing entries as there is clearly something wrong here. The title is simply "List of Irish billionaires by net worth" and we explicitly say that our table is the Forbes list: "The following Forbes list of Irish billionaires is based on an annual assessment of wealth and assets compiled and published by Forbes magazine in 2021."

I don't know if this is a simple mistake (it seems unlikely) or a case of WP:POV and WP:OR (Irish, but not Irish enough by some unstated criterion), but we need to fix it. If this list is not simply the Forbes list then we need to explicitly state what the criteria for inclusion are, and we need to provide sources showing that the various Irish Forbes list entries do or do not meet the criteria for inclusion in our list. Meters (talk) 21:55, 7 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

My mistake, the Collisons do appear on our table, incorrectly at 5th and 6th with $1.9 B. Meters (talk) 22:11, 7 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

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