Talk:List of Mercedes-Benz vehicles

Need to Revise Format

The format should be revised and improved in several ways.

Country Specifics

Each model may be produced worldwide, only in Europe, only in North America, etc. There should be a way to distinguish where each model was available and where it wasn't. --mercedesbenz911 07:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Indexed By

The beginning of the article states that the models are indexed by year of introduction, however not all decades are organized that way. Should it be reorganized into alphabetical order or should all decades be fixed to comply with the current standard? --mercedesbenz911 07:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Model Name Inconsistency

Some cars are specific models of a class (ex. 300D, 500SEL) while others are simply "C-Class" or "S-Class". Should they be expanded like the example below or condensed into model classes?

• S-Class 2000-
  • S430
  • S500
  • S600
  • S55 AMG
  • S65 AMG

--mercedesbenz911 07:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Proposed New Format

I propose the following standard format:

• (Class) (Series) (Series Years)
  • (Model Name) (Body Type) (Model Years) (Country Specifics)

Example below:

• S-Class W220 1999-2005
  • S280 sedan 1999-2005 (Not available in USA)
  • S320 sedan 1999-2005 (Not available in USA)
  • S320 CDI sedan 1999-2005 (Not available in USA)
  • S320 L sedan 1999-2005 (Not available in USA)
  • S350 sedan 2003-2005 (Not available in USA)
  • S350 L sedan 2003-2005 (Not available in USA)
  • S430 sedan 1999-2005 (Not available in USA)
  • S430 L sedan 1999-2005
  • S500 sedan 1999-2005 (Not available in USA)
  • S500 L sedan 1999-2005
  • S600 L sedan 2001-2005
  • S55 AMG sedan 1999-2005 (Not available in USA)
  • S55 AMG L sedan 1999-2005
  • S63 AMG L sedan 2001
  • S65 AMG L sedan 2005
• S-Class W221 2006-
  • S320 CDI sedan 2006- (Not available in USA)
  • S350 sedan 2006- (Not available in USA)
  • S420 CDI sedan 2006- (Not available in USA)
  • S450 sedan 2006- (Not available in USA)
  • S500/S550 sedan 2006-
  • S600 sedan 2006-
  • S63 AMG sedan 2006-
  • S65 AMG sedan 2006-

Is this a good format? Suggestions?

--mercedesbenz911 07:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the page needs to be fixed up to be more useful and usable. I'm not sure that we need to list all the variants within a class, though - S350, S430, S500 etc are really the same vehicle with different size engines. These (relatively) subtle differences are better addressed in the specific model page. The AMG models are sufficiently distinct that listing is valid.

I think also that the country differences should not be included in this listing. I really don't care if a particular model is available in the USA - I'm more concerned about what's available in Australia. And what about the UK, China, Brazil? We must have a world point-of-view, but it's impossible to list all countries - better not to list any. Paul Fisher 07:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, after seeing the changes you've just made to the page (ie listing all the M and S class variants) I don't think it's really adding value, and will make the page unreasonably long and unwieldy. Paul Fisher 09:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I see your point. How about like this?:

• S-Class
  • W220 1999-2005
  • W221 2006-

Also, we should address the other issues (i.e. Model Name Inconsistency). --mercedesbenz911 18:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes - I like that a lot better.

I think the inconsistency you're referring to comes from the fact that Benz changed the way they named their models in the mid 1990s. Prior to that the engine size came first, followed by some letters (eg 300D, 500SEL). I always found that terribly confusing. After about 1994, they introduced the class system. (Though there are so many classes these days it's almost as bad).

Paul Fisher 13:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Is the page really needed?

Why don't we just use (and expand on) this: Paul Fisher 07:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Truck Models Before 1960

Why does the section on Truck models start from 1960? Mercedes-Benz was producing trucks right from the merger in 1926! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.151.92.55 (talk) 09:42, 24 June 2013 (UTC)