Talk:List of attacks on the United States

Merge proposal

I propose merging List of foreign military attacks on United States territory and Attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities into List of attacks on the United States: A double TNT / blank-and-redirect to combine the two poorly-sourced articles together into a single "Attacks on the United States"-style article. To note, this was originally done to both articles, however, the bold blank-and-redirect for both articles was challenged by another editor [1][2].

1. Starting with List of foreign military attacks on United States territory...we have a 1-source article which has absolutely no information besides Wikilinks. It is basically a disambiguation page. I have no idea why the bold merge was challenged for this article.
2. Now onto Attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities. If you link in the edit history of List of attacks on the United States, you will notice several edit summary attributions (ex: [3]) to the attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities articles, as the entire article was added into this article. Attribution was key so the edit history was not lost in the blank-and-redirect merge.

This article is basically to combine two poorly sourced articles into an article with a larger scope: "attacks on the U.S.", rather than splitting it into "foreign attacks on U.S. soil" & "attacks on U.S. diplomats". So, in my opinion, I have seen no valid or policy reasonings as to why these two articles should not be merged into the larger-scoped "attacks on the U.S." article. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:34, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Happy to join in the discussion here as the aforementioned editor who opposed the bold BLAR: I'm not against an eventual merge but I do think there were granularities that existed in the prior two articles that ought to be kept.

I agree that sourcing was sparse in the prior two and that, if merged, it may be easier to maintain better article quality in one. With that said, sourcing in this article does leave a lot to be desired and I don't think presently that sourcing alone is a good reason for a merge.

Secondly, I think the list, if combined here, should be separated into different headers or tables. I think there will be columns that may benefit "military attacks on United States territory" that would not be needed in a table for "Attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities" and vice-versa. Bobby Cohn (talk) 16:06, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

I disagree that the lists should be split up by category. I believe that would make it too confusing to see the timeline of attacks against the US and complete chronological order allows that. However, as a compromise, I would not be opposed to having a “Target” column added, which could have items like “Territory”, “Diplomatic facility”, “Military base”, ect… Would you be opposed to that Bobby Cohn? The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 21:38, 29 November 2024 (UTC)