Talk:List of English-language books considered the best
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2007 merge suggestion
editThe suggestion has been made to merge two topics: "Great Books" and "The Great Books Foundation." Though related by birth (Mortimer Adler had a hand in founding Great Books of the Western World and the Great Books Foundation), the two topics are significantly distinguished in purpose and therefore should not be merged. The term "Great Books" is often used to describe a movement to promote a canon of literature that is mainly Western and non-contemporary. The Great Books Foundation is an educational organization that promotes the experience of discussing literature. This experience is enjoyed by many hundreds of Great Books groups that do not confine themselves to discussing the Western "classics" or Great Books of the Western World, for example. The experience is also the focus of the Foundation's K-12 reading and discussion program, Junior Great Books, which features some Western "classic" literature but also literature that is international, contemporary, and very "multi-cultural." If the purpose of the Great Books movement is to promote a Western canon of literature and ideas, the purpose of the Great Books Foundation is to help people discuss and learn from literature worth reading, regardless of its source. /Steveciii 21:07, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Deletion rationale
editIt should just redirect to Talk:Great books. I don't know if it can simply be moved, so I'm asking someone who really understands these thing. Thanks.--S. Rich (talk) 04:59, 31 December 2012 (UTC) Rationale regarding the fix of a redirect not a deletion. Now resolved.--S. Rich (talk) 07:30, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
Use of GBs in elementary/secondary schools
editSome editors want to add info about the use of great books in one particular school in San Diego. No WP:RS has been provided for this information. Besides the lack of WP:V, these edits are problematic in terms of WP:TOPIC. – S. Rich (talk) 19:10, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Move from Great Books
editI saw that the article title was recently changed from "Great books" to "List of books considered the best". My impression was that these were the list of books specifically in the Great Books Program. If this is the case, I think either the original article title should be used or moved to "Great Books Program". The new title, while consistent with the films article, breaks the connection with the Great Books Program name. Other thoughts? Bahooka (talk) 21:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- At the very, very least, this was an extremely bold move and should be reverted until discussion is had (ping @Discospinster:). Also "great books" is the WP:COMMONNAME (give or take "program"). czar ♔ 02:09, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
- The article mentions "Great Books of the Western World", Thomas Jefferson's collection, the "Great Books Program", the lists from How to Read a Book, etc. and no indication that any of them are related. The article List of films considered the best is a similar collection of movies that others have deemed to be "great". What is "great books" a common name of? Is it a title or a trademark? Calling the article "Great books" sounds like it's the opinion of Wikipedia editors. ... discospinster talk 03:54, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
- It's straightforward from how the phrase is used in the titles of the sources. It's a term used to refer to "classics" programs with set collections of literature. Your page move edit is contested, please revert it until we've found consensus. (Also, for what it's worth, the article doesn't indicate that these program lists see their book selections as "the best". It's curriculum design.) czar ♔ 04:05, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
- The article mentions "Great Books of the Western World", Thomas Jefferson's collection, the "Great Books Program", the lists from How to Read a Book, etc. and no indication that any of them are related. The article List of films considered the best is a similar collection of movies that others have deemed to be "great". What is "great books" a common name of? Is it a title or a trademark? Calling the article "Great books" sounds like it's the opinion of Wikipedia editors. ... discospinster talk 03:54, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Note
editThis talk page was merged into Talk:Great Books after an incomplete move czar ♔ 22:55, 10 May 2014 (UTC)