Talk:List of United States Naval Academy alumni

Notable Fictional Midshipmen?

I have added Jake Huard from the film Annapolis to the list of fictional alumni although he is only portrayed fictionally as a Midshipman. It occurs to me that perhaps there should be an additional list, linked here and to the Midshipman article, of Notable Fictional Midshipmen. This would also include non-Academy midshipmen such as Frederick Marryat's Mr Midshipman Easy and C.S. Forester's Horatio Hornblower (Mr. Midshipman Hornblower). Personally I would only include fictional characters who have an entire book or film about them, and I would not include fictional characters who were a Midshipman earlier in their lives such as Jack Aubrey or Nicholas, Lord Ramage. Please share your thoughts... Ray Trygstad (talk) 18:41, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Forking

Appending "lost" remarks (aka Lessons Learned) during this sections spin-off process! It's another example of style concerns taking defacto priority over fact (substance) verification.

The adult lifelong learning (ALL-WinWIn) connections and mentoring relatonships with faculty are obscured. The eidting history of participating contributors also gets disconnected ...

Added category & linkage back to main article from which this listing was correctly cloned.
RJBurkhart 11:52, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

PDLog for USNA notable graduates section

The "Graduates famous outside the Navy" should probably me merged with the the other notable graduates. Jimmy Carter certainly acheived his greatest notoriety oustide the Navy, yet is not in the outside the Navy group. John McCain is notable both for his naval service and his post-naval career.

Only three astronauts among dozens graduated from the Academy are listed. One of the most well known USNA graduates, astronaut James Lovell is not listed. A deputy assistant cabinet secretary is listed, but 5 secretaries are not.

The whole list needs to be rationalized in terms of who to include, and their organization.
24.209.173.129 06:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think naming Cape Leahy is Adm. Byrd's claim to fame. If no one objects, I'm going to remove it.
24.209.173.129 07:12, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

. No objections, so I removed it (now on famous graduates page).
MayerG 06:49, 18 January 2006 (UTC) (same person as 24.209.173.129).

Interesting adaptation of UNless Otherwise DIRected (UNODIR) collaboration practices.

From USNA social network analysis, the point of including Cape Leahy was to illustrate his respect for both Leahy's leadership model and sustained support of polar expeditions where Byrd moslty served as a figurehead after pre-staging support was completed by USCG RADM Richard Cruzen.
RJBurkhart 11:22, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

As usual with these articles, people are now trying to include "everybody" who has squeaked by with an article. Probably should be renamed "most notable graduates". There are lots of 3-star admirals who aren't in here because they aren't famous for anything! Now someone is trying to put in a member of the Wyoming legislature. Gets down to the level of preposterous after a while IMO. Student7 (talk) 11:44, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that's standard for any kind of list of notables. If there are admirals who you think deserve articles that don't have them then create those articles. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 19:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't complaining! Some of these admirals just didn't serve when anything crucial was happening. Very capable people, but 3 and 4-star adimiral are common from USNA! Can't have them all! And yes, some deserve articles but just not in this list IMO. (Just read about WP:SEH. Too bad they don't have that for notables!  :)Student7 (talk) 22:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Faculty; History

The article will have to be renamed, or the faculty moved back to the main article, or a separate article created for them. Were these two men even on the faculty?-- the included information is not clear. Given that only two supposed faculty are named, a separate page does not seem warranted yet. Also, the faculty section contains some irrlevant (to a list of notable graduates) bits of history (e.g. increased importance due to the Spanish American War) which should be in the main article, not here.--MayerG 16:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I've done a bit more checking. I can find no evidence Maury was ever a faculty member at the Naval Academy. According to his Wikipedia entry, Sigsbee was assigned to the academy, but not clear that he was on the faculty (many officers and men are assigned to the Academy without being on its faculty). The entire faculty section is just a copy and paste from the History section of the main article. Can anyone provide evidence about the faculty status of these two?--MayerG 16:49, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Medal of Honor winners

I think all Medal of Honor winners should be in here. There are quite a few.Student7 01:27, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Go for it. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 03:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Rhodes scholars, all-Americans, politicians

Maybe should poll these separately, but thought that Rhodes scholars should be a forked article from here. An article because having many Rhodes scholars is indicative of scholarship and forked because of their young ages. They really don't merit an article based on the Rhodes scholarship alone. I wanted to note that in an imbedded comment and discussion in the new article.

Also, not many all-Americans (sports) figures listed. I think they should be in this article but don't want to overload it. Don't know how many there are!

I would think we should list the "three state governors" mentioned in the USNA.org history. I think the "200 congressmen" should also be listed BUT if done all at once would tend to overwhelm this list of naval VIPs. Your thoughts? (BTW I have no pointer to such a list and therefore might not be able to implement it that fast anyway). Student7 21:18, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Alumni who need articles created or valid refs

Athletes and Astronauts

• Mike Foreman, (1956- ), Class of 1979- Astronaut
  • You mean him: Michael Foreman? -MBK₀₀₄ 03:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC) YEP

On astronaut list. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

• Rear Admiral Thomas J. Hamilton, class of 1927, 1976 recipient of the "Teddy" award, the highest the NCAA can bestow.
  • See Tom Hamilton (coach) — I've created a Thomas J. Hamilton page to redirect to this page. I need to fill in the blanks on his military service. Any help would be greatly appreciated.--Deejayk (talk) 04:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

On list, but military history of his needs added to article. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Oceanographers

• This: "As of January 2006, four graduates were honored as Bioneer EarthSea-Keepers, a new UNEP designator for notable oceanographers." needs a citation. — Rlevse • Talk • 17:15, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

  Updated UNEP (Oceanographer) citation:

  https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/drowning-pollution

  GeoVenturing (talk) 22:27, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Academics

Needs a reliable ref:

Name Class year Notability References Joseph D. Stewart 1964 Marine Corps Major General and United States Maritime Service Vice Admiral. Superintendent of the US Merchant Marine Academy. ?

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Science

• CAPT Homer A. McCrerey (1919-1999), Class of 1942 - Fleet Meteorologist and oceanographer (FNMOC) (1967-1972), needs rel source

— Rlevse • Talk • 10:56, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Name Class year Notability References David C. Richardson 1936 Vice Admiral. Championed pre-WWMCCS Ocean Surveillance Information Systems.

richardson needs an article — Rlevse • Talk • 11:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Joint Chiefs

• Vice Admiral Peruvian Navy Guillermo Zariquiey, (1936-2005), Class of 1958 - Chief of Staff and Commander of Naval Operations Peruvian Navy, Ecuador - Peru war veteran...needs article and ref

— Rlevse • Talk • 11:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Ambassador

• William H.G. FitzGerald, class of 1931 and ambassador to Ireland, FitzGerald scholar. — Rlevse • Talk • 12:27, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Sources: http://www.usna.com/Page.aspx?pid=497 http://www.wcginc.com/usnaaa/bot0503.htm Also USNA Institutional Research includes him as such on their listings. ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raine Dragon (talk • contribs) 17:53, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Olympians

• Frank Shakespeare '53, William Fields '54, James Dunbar '55, Richard Murphy '54, Robert Detweiler '53, Henry Procter '54, Wayne Frye '54, Edward Stevens '54, Charles Manring '52 - members of the crew team winning the gold medal in the Summer Olympics, Helsinki 1952.
• Peter Blair, Class of 1955 - Bronze medal light heavyweight wrestling, 1956 Olympics. Elected to Eastern Intercollegiate Wrestling Association (EIWA) Hall of Fame.
• Carl T. Osburn, Class of 1907, winner of five Olympic gold medals, four silver, and three bronze for rifle, in 1912, 1920 and 1924.[1]

— Rlevse • Talk • 21:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Civil War

• Lieutenant Wilburn B. Hall, appointed to USNA from Louisiana in 1855, graduated at the head of his USNA class of 1859. He was the flag-lieutenant to Commodore Inman, commanding the squadron on the African coast at the outbreak of the war. After he helped capture a slave ship with 700 slaves on board and took the ship back to Africa, delivering them to the Liberian government, he then went on to become the first Commandant of Midshipman of the Confederate States Naval Academy.

— Rlevse • Talk • 03:29, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Lebanon

• Commander Stephen G. Foti, (1949- ) Class of 1972 - Saved the Lives of 17 U.S. Marines off the coast of Beirut, Lebanon while aboard USS Manitowoc (LST -1180) as the Ship's First Lieutenant and Combat Cargo Officer.

— Rlevse • Talk • 03:42, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

MOH Wounded Knee

• Colonel Harry L. Hawthorne, USA, Class of 1882, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Wounded Knee 1890

— Rlevse • Talk • 14:28, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

MOH and Legislator

• Commander Willis W. Bradley, Class of 1907, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions aboard the USS Pittsburg in extinguishing a dangerous fire after an explosion rendered him temporarily unconscious.

— Rlevse • Talk • 02:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

MOH Vera Cruz

• Admiral Herman O. Stickney, Class of 1888, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Commander William K. Harrison, Class of 1889, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• LCDR Rufus Z. Johnston, Class of 1895, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Commander Allen Buchanan, Class of 1899, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Lieutenant James P. Lannon, Class of 1902, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Lieutenant Adolphus Staton, Class of 1902, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Lieutenant Julyius C. Townsend, Class of 1902, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Lieutenant Richard Wainwright, Class of 1902, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Lieutenant Charles C. Hartigan, Class of 1906, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Lieutenant junior grade George M. Courts, Class of 1907, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914

— Rlevse • Talk • 02:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Future use

• Captain William R. Rush, Class of 1877, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Vice-Admiral Harry M. P. Huse, Class of 1878, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Admiral Edwin Anderson, Jr., Class of 1882, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Brigadier General Albertus W. Catlin USMC, Class of 1890, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• LtCol Wendell C. Neville, USMC, Class of 1890, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Captain Frederick V. McNair, Jr., Class of 1903, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Admiral Jonas H. Ingram, Class of 1907, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914
• Vice-Admiral Theodore S. Wilkinson, Jr., Class of 1909, recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions at Veracruz in 1914

— Rlevse • Talk • 01:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

SecAF

*James F. McGovern, Class of 1969, Secretary of the Air Force 1988-89 — Rlevse • Talk • 02:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Confederates

• Hunter Davidson, see Naval Historical Center, CSS Teaser, CSS Hampton, Confederate Secret Service

Other

• Steve Bannon - certainly a USN officer but inconsistently cited as a USNA alumnus -

References

The Nightingale's Song

Robert McFarlane, John Poindexter, Oliver North, John McCain, James Webb. All five are covered in detail in this book. Page 31 for McCain, 13-14 for the others. North and Webb class of 1968, Poindexter and McCain 1958, 1959 for McFarland. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:09, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Alumni sort order

FYI all: See Wikipedia_talk:Featured_list_candidates#Alumni_list_order. I am working on List of United States Naval Academy alumni to get it to FLC and then plan to work on List of United States Military Academy alumni. I think it'd be good if they were set up as similar as possible. — Rlevse • Talk • 04:08, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

FYI, here is the list for the Air Force Academy: Graduates of the United States Air Force Academy. Planning a Featured Topic on service academy alumni lists? -MBK₀₀₄ 04:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

It did cross my mind. The AF article should be renamed for conistency. I can't find Coast Guard or Merchant Marine equivalents either. — Rlevse • Talk • 04:21, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Other stuff

1. AF alumni article needs renamed for consistency
2. AF and USMA are in grad order. Should we keep alpha and change them or change USNA to grad order
3. What order should the topics be in (Nobel, Astronauts, etc)
4. Coast Guard and Merchant Marine don't have alumni articles, just sections in their academy articles

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Since the grad order is being used in the others, that should be how we do it here, I've already done that for the Astronaut section. Missing articles would depend on the number of alumni we can find. -MBK₀₀₄ 20:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

what about topic order? — Rlevse • Talk • 20:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

That is where I don't have much of a clue. Perhaps a question for WT:FLC? -MBK₀₀₄ 21:15, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Non grads

If we add a non-graduate section, we can include Todd Peterson (place kicker) — Rlevse • Talk • 02:31, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Missing

I don't have the time to write up the minibios at the moment, but these people are missing from the US Ambassadors section:

Alan G. Kirk - Class of 1909

   Belgium, 1946-1949
   Soviet Union, 1949-1951
   Republic of China, Taiwan, 1962-1963
   Source: http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/uscn_usemb_chiefs.html 
   Source: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/ministers-and-ambassadors.html 

Vincent Obsitnik - Class of 1959

   Slovak Republic, 2007-2009
   Source: https://www.usna.com/SSLPage.aspx?referrer=NewsServicesOP&pid=7847

Also USNA Institutional Research includes both on their listings of alumni. Raine (talk) 18:29, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Honorary members

Do honorary members of a class fit into this list? I recently completed an article on Rear Admiral Edward L. Feightner who was made an honorary member of the class of 1942 for his work on the International Midway Memorial Foundation. Skeet Shooter (talk) 04:20, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

No comments so I created an "Honorary members" section with Feightner as the first entry. Skeet Shooter (talk) 15:06, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

IMO, no. Just like awarding an "honorary doctorate" to a speaker at a commencement. They don't wind up on a list someplace. Some of the latter awardees don't have undergraduate degrees.

Worse, note that this award was done, not by the Academy, but by the class. When are where are any "class" awardees mentioned? Should be in separate article since not Academy.Student7 (talk) 16:45, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

You bring up some good points. The potential for trivializing USNA honorary class membership certainly exists, although the few I found seem to be well-deserved. Brian Chontosh, for example, is an honorary member of USNA class of 2006, and that fact is mentioned in his article. The bylaws of several USNA classes seem to recognize the issue and have rules in place to ensure high standards. For example:

Honorary Class Memberships are awarded to ... individuals who have made significant contributions to the Association and to the United States Naval Academy. In order to ensure uniform standards for future individuals to be considered as Honorary Members of the United States Naval Academy Class of 1964 the following guidelines are established.

Does this reduce your concerns? Are you OK with leaving the section to see how things progress? The list of alumni is very large already, so I don't have an issue with making a separate list, although the new list may be very small. Skeet Shooter (talk) 03:37, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

It is class-derived and not Academy-derived. What if a class made someone an "honorary professor" or "honorary coach" or "honorary commandant" or something. While they were careful in making their selection of "honorary," there is a reason they didn't choose another term. We wouldn't list "honorary commandant", nor should we list any other people so designated by a class.Student7 (talk) 14:48, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

I understand your concerns and respect your opinion, although I haven't found evidence of the behavior you suggest in the USNA honorary class selections I've reviewed. I also disagree that "there is no real criteria" as the selection criteria in the link I posted are present in the bylaws of multiple USNA classes. I do agree that honorary members are a gray area and may not be appropriate for this article, so I went ahead and removed the section. Skeet Shooter (talk) 14:51, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Supes and Commandants

Unlike other lists of notables, these people must be notable outside of the Naval Academy. Supes and Commandants, except in the early days, are all graduates of the Naval Academy. Therefore they cannot be placed here for serving in those positions. There must be some other notable reason. Nationally known athlete, politician, etc. Student7 (talk) 23:51, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Where could we add Charlie Collins (politician), a state politician?

Where could we add Charlie Collins (politician)?Zigzig20s (talk) 18:31, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Leftwich Trophy Recipients

I propose the addition of a section for recipients of the Leftwich Trophy under the Military figures category. The Leftwich Trophy commemorates the service and leadership of William Groom Leftwich, Class of 1953. The annual award recognizes one outstanding Marine captain serving in a ground combat MOS, so I believe it fits the requirement for being famous outside the Naval Academy. Below is a current list of nine Academy graduate recipients, out of 36 total to date.

Name Class year Notability References Dirk R. Ahle 1975 1982 Recipient of the Leftwich Trophy Ronald L. King 1977 1983 Recipient of the Leftwich Trophy John R. Allen 1976 1988 Recipient of the Leftwich Trophy Ronald F. Baczkowski 1978 1990 Recipient of the Leftwich Trophy Steven M. Zotti 1983 1994 Recipient of the Leftwich Trophy Jason L. Morris 1992 2000 Recipient of the Leftwich Trophy Farrell J. Sullivan 1993 2002 Recipient of the Leftwich Trophy Christopher J. Bronzi 1996 2004 Recipient of the Leftwich Trophy Christopher A. Ashinhurst 2004 2013 Recipient of the Leftwich Trophy

The above list was generated by looking up each recipient in the Alumni lookup feature on the United States Naval Academy Alumni Association and Foundation website.--KMJKWhite (talk) 15:45, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

JCS-WWMCCS / Sea Surveillance Systems (Godfather)

David C. Richardson (admiral) (1939) Abstracted from U.S. Naval Institute Oral History Project.

Influenced by CNO William D. Leahy (Future thought leadership) Source: https://www.usni.org/press/oral-histories/richardson-david GeoVenturing (talk) 00:10, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Correction:

He was a 1936 graduate of the United States Naval Academy GeoVenturing (talk) 00:13, 2 June 2023 (UTC)