Talk:List of largest houses in the United States

Development

The Sanfilippo Mansion in Barrington, IL is now just a hair under 65,000sq ft. Don't know how this was missed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flaglerguy (talk • contribs) 18:02, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey, nice start to a list-article. What's the working definition here, of what is historic, by the way? Is there one particular source? By the way, i was just asking about a list like this independently at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Historic sites, and I was pointed to here. I'd like to add these:

• Aaron Spelling's 56,500-square-foot mansion, known as The Manor (Los Angeles, California), which is the largest house in Los Angeles County.
• Hyde Hall in Otsego County, New York, built in early 1800s for the heir of English colonial governor of New York State (George Clarke (governor)), who had a vast estate. The house/mansion was very large for its time, but looks not too impressive now, which was perhaps one of the largest homes in the United States in its day. This one is a historic site: it is a U.S. National Historic Landmark and is NRHP-listed.
• Shadowbrook Cottage, a former house in the Berkshires mountains of Massachusetts, which was "the Gilded Age mansion "Shadowbrook Cottage" which was reputed to be the largest private residence in the U.S. at the time of its completion in 1894."
• a modern house in Colorado with >50,000 sf

--doncram (talk) 01:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

No offense, but I don't feel that Spelling's home has enough age on it to qualify as historic. And Shadowbrook Cottage has the issue of no longer being standing, as it burnt down. The major oversight in my mind is Marjorie Merriweather Post's Mar-a-Lago. Wikipedia list it at 110,000 sq feet. It is on the National Historic Register and it is stall standing, and will hopefully remain so for a long time. Grasshopper62 (talk) 01:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)grasshopper62

Since the second list includes even a couple listed as "under construction" it would seem that there are a lot of omissions. For instance, one of the biggest homes in Georgia is [i]Le Reve[/i] at 2015 Trammel Road, Cumming, GA 30041, listed at 47,000 square feet. It was originally built by con artist Hubert Humphery of Duluth, GA. This house is also listed on Zillow as only 35,721 square feet per the county's building permit records, which don't count "unfinished space" (which can be finished out later on and thus added to the overall square feet; sort of like finishing out a previously-unfinished basement). So, which are you going to believe here? And is 40,000 square feet a decent cut-off for a list of "largest houses," anyway? Maybe it should be 50,000 square feet instead? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ElbonianFL (talk • contribs) 01:29, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

If you are aware of a property that is not included, please add it to the list and include references. If the list grows too long, then we may need to look at the cut-off in the future; however, at this time it's not overly lengthy so I don't think there's need to cut it at 50,000. BlueGold73 (talk) 01:36, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't Carolands be on the is list at 65,000 square feet? --Matthew Zuckman (talk) 01:06, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

1. 78 is LeReve, in Georgia. It says that Hubert Humphrey built the home in 2005, but Hubert Humphrey, our former vice president, lived in Waverly, Minnesota and died in 1978. [Wikipedia, Hubert Humphrey]. I see from a previous edit that the GA home was built by a con artist named Hubert Humphrey. Perhaps the 2 HHs could be distinguished in the article.

Isn't it time to limit this list to "Top 100"? At 120+ entries, it is getting cumbersome.
-- Someone told me about number 135. Came to look it up, and it was gone. Wish the list hadn't been limited. Why limit it? 70.178.254.98 (talk) 03:34, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Architectural style

Forgive me for pointing this out, but the article sates that the architectural style of the White House is "Georgian". Yet when i refer to the article about Palladian architecture, it states that the White House, designed by James Hoban is in fact Palladian and NOT Georgian. So why does the article reflect such inaccuracy? Yoganate79 (talk) 07:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

List is too vague

The White House shouldn't be on this list as it isn't a "house," rather it is a palace.

Also, are the basements of the homes included on the list? There is a house being constructed by Arnold Chase in CT that is more than 50,000 square feet; but that is only with the basement, only 17,000 square feet is above ground. Should it be added?

Are guest houses and other structures included? Many sources have stated that Bill Gates' residence is only around 40,000 square feet; and from looking at maps, I assume that may be more accurate. It is likely that large when including the separate buildings. The mansion in Connecticut that Curtis Jackson is trying to sell is supposedly 51,000 square feet according to zillow. That is most likely with the guest house and other structures.

Would attics also be included? The Manor in Holmby hills would be in the 70,000 square foot range when including the attic.

With the Versailles in Florida, a listing states that it is only 66,800 square feet. The measure of 90,000 square feet seems to be an exaggeration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jag140 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

fairfield

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/05/hamptons-ira-rennert-mansion-helicopter

"Fair Field, Ira Rennert's estate in Sagaponack, cost $100 million to build and is worth at least $200 million. The 110,000-square-foot complex has 29 bedrooms, 39 bathrooms, three pools, two libraries, a bowling alley, a playground, a full theater, its own power plant, and a garage for 100 cars. "

seems like this should be on the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patbahn (talk • contribs) 14:38, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

It's already on the list. While the Fairfield complex is 110,000 sq ft, the main house is around 66,000 sq ft, so that's the one that's on the list. BlueGold73 (talk) 04:52, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Thorough references would be nice...

...and preferably not self-published ones. As demonstrated with Biltmore Estate, the self-published figures are greater than those given by the tax assessor to the tune of a full acre of floor space. I think in all possible cases we ought to go with the tax assessors because I sincerely doubt they would cheat themselves out of potential tax revenue. Seven Letters 21:33, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Seven Letters, self-published references are not necessarily inappropriate, especially when they concur with government records. See the comment on the Biltmore Estate talk page. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.18.39.81 (talk) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Missing

The list of "privately-owned houses" leaves out Bill Gates's house near Seattle, which is around 50,000 square feet.

69.127.82.225 (talk) 12:06, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

No it's not missing. It's on the list at #6. BlueGold73 (talk) 12:34, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

sq footage questions

I would like to add Lyndhurst, but can't find any information on square footage. Does anyone have this information? Also, are Marble House and Rosecliff in Newport under 30,000? They are not on the list currently. (Vlad b (talk) 21:00, 17 April 2014 (UTC))

Vlad, I can't find anything on Lyndhurst either. As for Marble House and Rosecliff their livable square footage is below 30,000 per county records. Landry76 (talk) 18:39, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I actually visited Lyndhurst over Memorial Day weekend, and asked the staff personally. The Sq footage is under 30K. Vlad b (talk) 15:59, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Round Hill Estate

This estate look huge, Round Hill, is it on the list? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Col_green_mansion.jpg ~~ oasorgard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oasorgard (talk • contribs) 04:20, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Le Palais Royal

Please add Le Palais Royal at 60 000 square feet. --Jax 0677 (talk) 07:41, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Area column title

Should the title for the area column be something to the effect of "Interior square footage", to differentiate between the inside area and the yard? --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:59, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Please add Palazzo di Amore

Please add Palazzo di Amore at 53 000 square feet of living space [1]. --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:00, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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Bracebridge Hall

this house exceeds 30k sqft but is not on the list: http://www.myeasternshoremd.com/news/kent_county/article_2af6a7a8-e882-504f-b676-6d84a5fca93f.html please add it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.244.84.209 (talk) 16:53, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Villa Vizcaya

Is this house big enough to be on this list:; http://vizcaya.org/home.asp ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.244.84.209 (talk) 17:18, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Charles Gates Mansion 38,000 ft2

The largest home reportedly built in Minneapolis is missing https://minneapolisparkhistory.com/2011/11/10/city-ordinance-restricts-building-height-around-minneapolis-lakes/ Pbmaise (talk) 05:50, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Busch Mansion 32,000 ft2

There are several Busch Mansions and this is largest. http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/busch-big-house-estate-opening-as-wedding-event-space/article_05d6cc1c-c423-5981-a835-673752a7ed1b.htmlPbmaise (talk) 08:36, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Blair House, 70,000 ft2

This is the Presidential Guest house, however it is residential in nature. This is probably only case where the guest house is larger than main house (White House) Pbmaise (talk) 08:39, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

But that's not one single building, this list only counts the main building. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schnapps17 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Turnbald Mansion: AKA American Swedish Institute

By far one of the most incredible homes ever built and in perfect condition. 33 rooms but can't find exact original size before 34,000 ft2 addition which may not count. Addition added after no longer inhabited. http://www.onlyinyourstate.com/minnesota/turnblad-mansion-mn/.Pbmaise (talk) 08:49, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Duncan Phillips House: 60,000 ft2

Another difficult case since was originally single family home but has expanded over years to house art gallery. Much of additions occurred while inhabited but not sure if still lived in by Phillips family.Pbmaise (talk) 08:49, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

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My name is Larry Weisenberg and I represent Michael Milken. A recent Times of London article was used as a reference to report that Mike Milken purchased the Fleur de Lys mansion in Los Angeles. This article was incorrect; Mr. Milken did not purchase the home. The Los Angeles Times, which also incorrectly reported this in 2014, later published a correction: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mo-fleur-de-lys-20140331-story.html. This item should be removed. Thank you. LarryWeisenberg (talk) 14:50, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

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Largest House In Each State

How about adding a section for the largest house in each state? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schnapps17 (talk • contribs) 22:22, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

House To Add

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10697-Somma-Way-Los-Angeles-CA-90077/20529397_zpid/

This house seems to qualify at 40,000 square feet. Can anyone tell from this listing if that's for t he main house or if there are any outbuildings? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schnapps17 (talk • contribs) 20:05, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Demolished & Under Construction

Does anyone else get the feeling that there's been too much back and forth regarding the debate over whether or not to include houses that are demolished, under construction, or no longer used as houses. I feel like it might be a good idea to conduct a poll on this issue so that the list doesn't change so dramatically as often as it has been doing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schnapps17 (talk • contribs) 04:07, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Sort Filters and Formatting

The purpose of sort filters is to allow sub-categories of data to be recognized...for example, which states these mansions are in. Yet, we see the locations improperly listed by city first, then state. That defeats the purpose of the sort filter. I suggest reformatting the locations to list state first, then city.Ryoung122 04:12, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

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Versailles house

Per this source, the Versailles house is 108,381 square feet, meaning it would be the third largest house in the United States. This can be verified by the county records. The house's placement needs to be updated (as does the article on the house itself). PoliticsIsExciting (talk) 21:47, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

The ONe?

Is there a reason why The One in Bel Air isn't listed? It's been featured in nearly every news article etc. 105,000 square feet.

The Manor

MB, did you look at the source before reverting this edit? It clearly says 56,500 sqft as added by Charliot. If you have a source to refute this then please add that rather than leaving an unhelpful edit summary saying that the edit is unexplained or unsourced. It clearly is explained and is sourced. --ARoseWolf 17:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

The edit by Charliot was formatted wrong and did not display any number in the article. It corrupted a number that appeared valid and had a source. The number was changed, no new source was provided, nor was there any edit summary saying they were correcting per the existing source. The WP:BURDEN is on the editor making a change to do it properly. The "source" is a real estate website which presents information supplied by many sources, including some that may have COIs. I doubt it is a WP:RS in the first place. MB 18:02, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

MB, you have issues with the source saying you doubt it is a reliable source yet leave it in place? You criticize a new editor in the edit summary by erroneously saying their edit is unsourced when, in fact, they looked at the source, that was already provided, and saw that our article wrongly listed information not found in the source and edited it to match. Who doesn't make sense here? You or them? I might add, it took longer for you to revert them and write the edit summary than simply add a comma to fix the error. --ARoseWolf 18:49, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Missing Graylyn Estate

Add Graylyn Estate 2600:6C5E:4F00:FA33:F18F:B7B0:784:5567 (talk) 02:33, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Tamir Sapir Mansion Great Neck

Shouldn't this be on the list?

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/26-Pond-Rd-Great-Neck-NY-11024/31065180_zpid/ 108.5.6.99 (talk) 08:01, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Improvements coming.

I'm thinking of adding a column for gross square footage and net square footage. I also feel like adding some additional square footage. I also want to tackle some of the updates that have been suggested in the talk group, like re organizing locations by state. I also want to add a "rooms" column because that is often a metric used to determine how big some of these homes are. I'll add a specific column for still in existence or "year demolished" and setting up better sorting. etc. There is lots of improvement that this page could get and this topic is one I love. There are many mansions both existing and demolished that are not on this list, but should be. Brooksbl (talk) 18:14, 27 July 2024 (UTC)