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Talk:List of musical instruments, List of musical instruments see also Hornbostel-Sachs, Musical instrument classification

Hydrophone

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Latest comment: 12 years ago9 comments3 people in discussion

Where or by whom is this "hydrophone" class "under consideration"? --Camembert

That was me, I'll attempt to find where I read that. I read it while attempting to verify that instruments which produce sound in the water are called hydrophones (after reading a mention by Alvin Lucier?). Hyacinth 17:52, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I believe electronic microphones or loudspeakers for use under water are known as hydrophones. Might this be the origin? I can't really think of a way in which an instrument could actually produce sound using water (bear in mind that, say, a chordophone is still a chordophone when underwater, since it's not the water that causes the sound), and I haven't heard of such an instrument. EldKatt 22:05, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Obviously they would produce sound by manipulating the flow of water, much as an aerophone produces sound by manipulating the flow of air. But as you start to say, does anyone know an example of such an instrument? -- Smjg 11:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)Reply
You're right; theoretically it's quite possible. But unless it can be verified that the classification exists, or even that there are such instruments, I think it ought to go. --EldKatt 17:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)Reply
That seems to be like saying "If you don't have a wife, you should stop beating her." -- Smjg 09:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)Reply
I'm afraid I have no idea what you mean by that. --EldKatt 08:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)Reply
Basically that one cannot get rid of what is already non-existent. If (as suspected) the current Hornbostel-Sachs system doesn't have a Hydrophone category, then nobody can remove it from the system. If OTOH you meant it ought to go from this article, then I'm not sure. I guess it makes sense to note the fact that the category has been/is being considered for the system. -- Smjg 10:17, 19 May 2005 (UTC)Reply
Ah, I see. Yes, I did mean from the article. If it is being considered for the system, I can't see why the page shouldn't say so. The question, I guess, is if it actually is. --EldKatt 14:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)Reply
A google search pointed me to little but this German text, apparently a critical article on the Hornbostel-Sachs system, which mentions the term, but I don't know German well enough to understand much of it. --EldKatt 17:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)Reply
I tried a Google translation, but it just gave up halfway through. BabelFish does a little better [1]. But my guess would be that the category would be added to the system when and if such an instrument is invented/discovered. -- Smjg 09:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

Bagpipes

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I have added several types of bagpipe to the list. Although I could think of more, I suspect there are simply too many distinctly different types to list. A more urgent problem occurred to me, though. As of now, the bagpipes are categorised by the type of reed (single or double). However, most bagpipes have at least two pipes, occasionally fitting into both of these categories. The Great Highland Bagpipe, Uilleann Pipe, and probably many other types have a double-reed chanter and single-reed drones, and the opposite might exist (although it probably doesn't, for technical reasons). For now, I'm certain that they're all categorised by the reed of the chanter, but there might be a better way to deal with it. Does anyone know if the Hornbostel-Sachs system has its own way of dealing with this? --EldKatt 13:39, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Yes, there are special ways of dealing with instruments such as these which might reasonably be put in more than one category (I touched on it at Hornbostel-Sachs#Suffixes and composite instruments, but didn't go into any detail because... well, I must've felt lazy that day). Exactly how it works I can't remember off the top of my head - I'll check some time later this week and we'll see what can be done. --Camembert


Rhodes Piano

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Surely a Fender Rhodes is an Ideophone not an Electrophone as the electro-magnetic pick-up only amplifies and does not actually produce the sound. As the tine produces the sound and each one is specifically tuned to resonante at a difeerent pitch, should it not be a 'Struck Ideophone' just as an electric guitar is a 'Plucked Chordophone'? --Beliefspace 16:11, 3 Feb 2007 (UTC)

Agree. There seems to be an ongoing project at MIMO to update HS, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Percussion/Lists of percussion instruments#MIMO. Andrewa (talk) 14:15, 23 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Wobble board

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Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

What kind of idiophone would this be, although it's shaken it's not indirectly struck. -- Regregex (talk) 17:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

list of all chordophones

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list of all chordophones

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The result of the move request was: Moved all. Closing early as it doesn't look controversial, and main article is already at Hornbostel–Sachs.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:50, 10 September 2018 (UTC)Reply


– Per MOS:ENDASH; this is two people. HandsomeFella (talk) 19:31, 10 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

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