Talk:Lists of heads of state of Iceland

Jarls of Iceland

Does anyone have any information on the Jarls of Iceland. The men sent by the King of Norway to rule Iceland after 1261? Please see: Norwegian noble titles. Inge 17:07, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

I have been looking for the same. I also wonder if, strictly speaking, the "union with the Kingdom of Denmark" shouldn't be moved to 1814 and forward. It wouldn't affect the kings, obviously. -- Nidator ^{T / C} 00:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

As far as I remember, there only ever was one jarl in Iceland, Gizurr Somethingsson, who was sent by Håkon Håkonsson. But this is only from memory - if you have access to Kulturhistorisk leksikon for nordisk middelalder it's in there.--Barend (talk) 09:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

The reason why I ask is because in the article on Gissr Þorvaldsson it says that he was made Jarl of Iceland by Håkon Håkonsson in 1258, four years before Iceland submitted to Norwegian rule, and held the title until his death in 1268, and in the article on Norwegian noble titles it says that the title was abolished in 1308. That leaves a gap of 40 years. If true then either the position was vacant for that time, which seems odd, or someone else held it. -- Nidator ^{T / C} 00:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you might find it odd. But I seem to remember that that's what happened. I'll check it though, unless someone beats me to it.--Barend (talk) 13:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Good! If it turns out that there were others then it might warrant an article. -- Nidator ^{T / C} 13:21, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Finally got around to checking "Kulturhistorisk leksikon for nordisk middelalder". It says there is no evidence for any more jarls in Iceland after Gissur died in 1268. It was in the laws that the king could appoint one, but he seems not to have done so, which I assume the Icelanders were quite happy with...--Barend (talk) 15:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

That is a reference to the Icelandic law, I presume. Anyway, thanks for looking it up. -- Nidator ^{T / C} 10:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

The book said "King Magnus' law", so presumably his law for Iceland.--Barend (talk) 15:47, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Recent move

I question the move of this article made by a user, from "List of Icelandic rulers" to "List of monarchs of Iceland". I think the current name implies that there was indeed an "Icelandic monarchy", which in reality only existed briefly from 1918 to 1944 (Kingdom of Iceland), with Christian X of Denmark as the only ever "King (or "monarch") of Iceland". All the others have simply been rulers of Iceland as a part of either Norway or Denmark. Thhist (talk) 17:13, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree with you, Thhist, for the reasons you give. -- Nidator ^{T / C} 18:09, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Am I also right to question the article's use of terminology which says that Iceland was in a "Union with [Norway/Denmark]"? I don't think Iceland was in a "union" in the common sense of the word (which in this case would be a personal union), for the same reasons as cited above (again with the exception of 1918-1944). Thhist (talk) 21:48, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Move

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The result of the proposal was move per request, as modified.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:58, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

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List of monarchs of Iceland → List of Icelandic rulers – I suggest to move the article back to its previous name, which it was moved from by one user without discussion (see more in the main section above). Thhist (talk) 21:48, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

• Comment. Perhaps List of rulers of Iceland would be a better title? While the people listed in this article did rule Iceland, many of them were not Icelandic, but Norwegian. Jenks24 (talk) 01:29, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I agree that your suggestion is even better, as it is overwhelmingly the norm elsewhere (at Category:Lists of rulers) and because the rulers were not native Icelanders (as the former proposal might imply). Thhist (talk) 16:24, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

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Names

I see every ruler is named by his English name. Is that better on this English wikipedia than the Icelandic versions they were referred to as in Iceland? (Example, Kristján X instead of Christian X.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.157.76.92 (talk) 09:01, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, absolutely, although the Icelandic form could be included as well in smaller script. — LlywelynII 18:50, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Eh, no.

This page is nearly useless. These people did not actually govern Iceland and the current page could just as well provide links to "List of Danish rulers". What should be included/replace this content entirely is the Royal Commissioners / Governors (like Frederich Christopher Trampe, Count of Trampe) who actually administered the territory in the kings' names. — LlywelynII 18:50, 13 March 2014 (UTC)