Talk:List of mayors of Leeds

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Joseph Ogdin March was Mayor in 1865.. 109.148.74.248 (talk) 17:35, 26 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Requested move 23 September 2017

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved, and will also move Lord Mayor of Belfast, Lord Mayor of Cork, Lord Mayor of Nottingham, and Lord Mayor of Sheffield per comment below. If anyone thinks those deserve special exception, let me know afterwards. Thanks.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:28, 1 October 2017 (UTC)Reply



– Per MOS:CAPS (esp. MOS:JOBTITLES), for consistency with each other and with various other such articles, and per series of recent multi-page RMs [1], [2], [3], [4], etc. These moves will also be consistent with the approach generally used for mayors of places in other countries in Category:Lists of mayors. The nominated articles cover both the mayor and later lord mayor versions (Mayor of Leeds redirects to Lord Mayor of Leeds, etc.), and consist of just a list and a short lead section, so should be at "List of ..." titles like other articles in this series.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  15:33, 23 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

PS: These are not the only ones that need a conformance rename, but the rest may need to be examined one-on-one, as we have some cases where we have separate lists for mayors and lord mayors, and other cases of separate articles on the history of the mayor and lord mayor positions, sometimes also with one or more separate list articles for them, which need merging, except when the positions are distinct and conconcurrent, as in the unusual cases of concurrent mayor and lord mayor positions (see #Further cleanup needed, below). Anyway, some more multi-article RMs can probably be put together (one has, here), but I don't have the time or interest to do all of them personally; I just ran across these while doing redirect and rcat cleanup. WP:There is no deadline, so moving them all at once is not a necessity (and some people object to too many or very broad multi-RMs, anyway). One multi-RM that can be done ASAP is moving various "Mayor of Foo", "Mayors of Foo", "Lord Mayor of Foo", "Mayors and lord mayors of Foo", "List of Lord Mayors of Foo", etc., articles, not listed in the current RM, to "List of mayors of Foo" in absence of any need to merge anything. However, many merges of pointless, stubby WP:CONTENTFORKs do need to happen; one is already proposed here. — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  15:33, 23 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Further cleanup needed

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The directly elected Mayor of Leicester and the ceremonial/civic Lord Mayor of Leicester are separate articles which may or may no be a good idea. There's another Leicester-style distinction that has resulted in a previously noted very confusing article split, presently at List of mayors of Tower Hamlets (about civic mayors) and Mayor of Tower Hamlets (about directly elected mayors). I'm not 100% sure what the ideal fix is, but someone please propose one in another RM. One approach is that taken by Civic mayor of Doncaster versus Mayor of Doncaster though the name of the second article is still confusing and ambiguous, and all the articles of this sort should probably be "List of", since they are about the people not the title itself as a words as words matter (per WP:NOTDICTIONARY). A consistent approach should probably be taken with Leicester, Tower Heights, Doncaster, and any similar cases, whether it be leading with "civic" versus "[directly] elected" in the title (as used with Directly elected mayor of Salford and Civic mayor of Salford), or the same but using parenthetic disambiguation, or whatever. They could even be merged into single articles per location, with the role distinctions covered in separate list sections, a common approach used in many subjects (see, e.g., List of world eight-ball champions). I personally favor that last option, as it will be helpful to readers (it does not presuppose that they're already experts in British civil administration and know exactly what micro-topical article they're looking for), and it will reduce editorial maintenance needs by reducing pointless page profusion, while minimizing the tendency of people to add information to the wrong article or to make incorrect "corrections".  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  15:33, 23 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Yup. WP isn't running newspaper ads for job recruitment, where sadly vanity capping is almost universal. Tony (talk) 01:10, 24 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
I'd also like to see single articles per location. Ham II (talk) 20:00, 30 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Title no longer reflects content

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When this article was Lord Mayor of Leeds it reflected the title. Now it has been converted to List of mayors it does not. Notably because there is not a list of Mayors only Lord Mayors. I also note that the bottom bit is the "Lists of Lord Mayors in the United Kingdom" template. What should be done about this? Chemical Engineer (talk) 10:11, 1 May 2019 (UTC)Reply