Talk:Louise Boursier/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Larry Hockett (talk · contribs) 12:57, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I will be happy to review this. Thanks to the nominator for his interest in improving Wikipedia's coverage of science and medicine. Larry Hockett (Talk) 12:57, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

As I read this entry, I am concerned about copyright problems, specifically close paraphrasing, or the use of wording from another source with only superficial modification. Here are a few examples:

• Goodell: "she was taught to read and write" → "she was taught to read and write" (this might be worth leaving out, as it can be inferred from her becoming the first woman to write about childbirth practices)

• Perkins: "then probably by 1586, and certainly by 1588" → "then probably by 1586 and definitely by 1588"

• Dunn: "In 1589 Henri IV (1553–1610) attacked Paris. With her husband away in the army, Louise fled behind the walls of the city..." → "King Henri IV attacked Paris in 1589; Bourgeois had three children at the time. Bourgeois fled behind the city walls of Paris with her children for protection, since her husband was away in the army."

• Perkins: "the examining panel had to consist of a physician, two surgeons, and two midwives" → "The examining panel consisted of a physician, 2 surgeons, and 2 experienced midwives"

These were just examples that I noted from the early portions of the article. The rest of the entry needs to be reviewed for this issue.

There are also some tone/neutrality issues. In the lead, there is a mention of Boursier raising the status of the profession from folklore to science, but there seems to be little support for this idea even in the body of the entry. WP:Peer review may be helpful to stamp out such issues.

A GOCE request may also be helpful for this article; there are some odd constructions, such as "which however did not bring in enough money..." and "just outside Paris called, the".

I am sure that we can work on the writing issues, but copyright problems fall under the quick fail criteria at WP:GAFAIL and should be addressed before re-nomination.

Thank you for your work on this entry. Larry Hockett (Talk) 13:44, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the review and the suggestions. It looks like I have my work cut out for me on this one. I'll take your great ideas and see if I can't improve the article. After I think I am done, THEN I'll run it through GOCE to have it polished as you suggest. I'm thinking all this will take me a month or so -> AFTER that then I'll renominate GAN. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)