Talk:MGM Resorts International/Archives/2015

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was don't move. —Nightstallion (?) 08:18, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

MGM Mirage → MGM MIRAGE – Proper corporate name is fully capitalized version: http://mgmmirage.com/missionstatement.asp (Redirect at MGM MIRAGE has history)

• Oppose. Please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks). —David Levy 23:00, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose per standards - see also Time (magazine) and Life (magazine) for examples. — sjorford (talk)

• I see the point being refered to in the Manual of Style, but doesn't this fall under the exception (MCI)? Following the rules strictly on this, why go for MGM Mirage instead of Mgm Mirage? From my current information, using the MGM Mirage spelling conflicts with the corporate name of MGM which this company is no longer affiliated, hence the MGM MIRAGE spelling. - Jagged 00:46, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

• Irrespective of ownership, the term "MGM" is an initialism (like "MCI"). The word "mirage" is not, and the all-caps spelling is purely stylistic. —David Levy 01:33, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

• It is not an intialism. When used for MGM MIRAGE it does not stand for Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. All legal documentation uses the MGM MIRAGE name. There is also some talk along this lines in Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(trademarks). Despite the debate, the Style Guide does allow the first instance to be the full trademark, so I will change that instance back. - Jagged

• The fact that "MGM" (in this context) doesn't officially stand for anything is irrelevant. (The same has been true of CBS since 1974.) The important distinction is that the all-caps spelling is part of conventional English; "Mgm" is nonsensical. —David Levy 03:59, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

• The use on one of their pages is interesting, but not definitive; sometimes press-release-type info has formatting peculiarities, for instance to help search/replace edits when preparing material. Corporations usually have detailed rules about the use of their name, sometimes online, sometimes not. In any case, if that material says "no lower case for the mirage part", then that pretty much settles the question. (I'm guessing that the all-upper-case is intended to help distinguish parent company from resort, and that they consider it an important distinction.) Stan 13:40, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

• The official corporate rule is all capitals. I am still trying to find my copy of the internal document, and I can ask about an external copy during the week or permission to release the internal document. - Jagged 20:23, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose regardless of internal company preferences, a quick Google News [1] search shows that with the exception of Press Releases, every reference to the company is "MGM Mirage". older ≠ wiser 03:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose They may have a new house style tomorrow; WP follows general usage. Septentrionalis 06:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose as per above. — Knowledge Seeker দ 01:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

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History

By stating that the company began with the merger with Mirage is incorrect and it covers up the whole history of the company prior to that. Where is the page for the old MGM? I doubt that this was a new company in law. Were all employees rehired? Were all contracts redone? The company has an interesting history that goes back to the 60's when it was part of the film studio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.115.114.4 (talk) 01:58, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Logo

I am an employee of MGM MIRAGE.And I cna say with absolute certainty that your semantical discussion of the format of this logo is a waste of time. Bottom line is that all internal communications use MGM MIRAGE. This is a constant battle we have with vendors and even our own employees. I have prepared hundreds of communications and presentations since being with the company and MGM MIRAGE is the proper use.

The official corporate filings with the SEC are made with MGM MIRAGE and it is incorporated as such. Public example http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx?dcn=0000950153-06-000479&Type=HTML

That's irrelevant. Our Manual of Style dictates that we largely ignore the registered style in favor of conventional English. —David Levy 22:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Not Inc.

The parent corporation is registered with the Nevada Secretary of State as MGM MIRAGE (Corp# C250-1987), while the corporation MGM Mirage, Inc. (Corp# C18948-2000) was disbanded in 2000. Nevada's corporation search is at https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpSearch.aspx --- Jagged 21:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

• My mistake. Forbes.com listed it as having an "Inc." Also, I don't think I've ever seen a company name without a "Co.," "Inc.," or something similar. —tregoweth (talk) 19:31, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • It depends on state rules, usually only the "non-standard" types like LLC or LLP require an identifier. Also, if you see the previous debate, it should be MGM MIRAGE, not MGM Mirage, however the current middle-ground allows the first instance in the article to follow the company's trademark. I would like to see the whole article moved, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. --- Jagged 21:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Ownership

My understanding a group bought out MGM Mirage and it is therefore no longer publically traded. See the MGM Mirage website for the press release.

Majority owner

Who is Nick Valencia? I thought that Kirk Kerkorian's Tracinda Corp was the majority owner of MGM Mirage? 72.254.51.51 07:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

After looking at the history, I've concluded that this was just an act of vandalism and I've corrected the page to reflect the right information. 72.254.51.51 07:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Someone else volunteered that he's Albanian. He was born in America. Removed. – Quadell ^(talk) 17:15, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

• Kerorian and Tricinda became minority owners when the company's stock was diluted following a new IPO of newly released shared. see http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124268713396332161.html. 71.43.67.115 (talk) 18:33, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer m_Resort

• Please, more explanation.

hopiakuta Please do sign your communiqué .~~Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persina. 17:00, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

• Krikorian_(disambiguation)
• Kerkorian_(disambiguation)

hopiakuta Please do sign your communiqué .~~Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persina. 18:00, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Name Rebranding

I heard that MGM Mirage is about to change its name to MGM Resorts International. [2] Could somebody update that? -72.145.66.202 (talk) 23:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

MGM/UA

Logical or what? Shouldn't MGM Resorts buy MGM/UA and UA Theaters and MNTV? I think so. Apple8800 (talk) 14:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Borgata Atlantic City and MGM Grand Atlantic City

I have removed these two properties from the list of owned properties because MGM Resorts International has relinquished its license in New Jersey due to the fact the New Jersey Casino Control Commission and the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement has found MGM Resorts International unsuitable for a license due to its relationship with Macau businesswoman Pansy Ho. MGM Resorts 50% ownership in the Borgata has been transferred to a divestiture trust seperate and apart from the company and the MGM Grand Atlantic City project has been cancelled due to the factors stated previous. Please add any discussions here first before making any edits or reverts. Thank you in advance. 71.43.67.115 (talk) 18:27, 11 February 2011 (UTC)