Talk:Blood donation restrictions on men who have sex with men

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Latest comment: 28 days ago by 211.52.210.12 in topic South Korea situation is wrong

Definition of “deferral”

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The text and table describing restrictions on MSM donors refers to “deferral” policies but I can’t find anywhere that clearly defines this term. But the entire description of “deferral” in this article seems confusing. Eg in the US, the change from 1 year to 3 month “deferral” actually means that men can donate blood if their last sexual encounter with a man was 3 months ago (previously 1 year). If this is what “deferral” usually or always means in the text then it should be clearly defined. And if “deferral” is usually something else (but refers to time since last sexual activity in the US) then that should be clearly stated! I’m not making an edit as I am not clear on the answer and it could require an extensive rewrite. Rishabghosh (talk) 23:16, 7 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Risk of STD transmission

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From the article:

"In some European countries, high-risk sexual intercourses lead to a temporary ban, regardless of the sex of the partner. In fact, advocates for change in other countries note that the ban encompasses all same-sex sexual contact, even if the partner's HIV status is shown beyond doubt to be negative. Advocates for change point out that a promiscuous straight male is a higher-risk donor than a gay or bisexual man in a monogamous relationship, but the former will usually be allowed to donate blood. Furthermore, in some countries, other high-risk activities determine a temporary ban, such as sexual contact with anyone who has used needles to take drugs not prescribed by their doctor, whereas MSM donors are deferred indefinitely. If a woman has had sexual contact with a man who has had sex with a man in the last year, she must wait three months from last sexual contact  before donating blood.[33]"

1. "In some European countries, high-risk sexual intercourses lead to a temporary ban":

Commission Directive 2004/33/EC sets forth permanent deferral for "persons whose sexual behaviour puts them at high risk of acquiring severe infectious diseases that can be transmitted by blood"

2. "Advocates for change point out that a promiscuous straight male is a higher-risk donor than a gay or bisexual man in a monogamous relationship, but the former will usually be allowed to donate blood."

Nowhere can promiscuous men donate blood.

3. "If a woman has had sexual contact with a man who has had sex with a man in the last year, she must wait three months from last sexual contact  before donating blood.[33]"

[33] applies to Canada only, and that's not explicit in the text, and it should as such restriction, unlike promiscuous men and high-risk sexual behavior, is very "country-specific".

From a rhetoric point of view, the entry argumentation is confusing. Do they think a MSM should be treated like a "promiscuous straight man"? As a "woman who had sex with MSM"? As "someone who had contact with illicit needles"? After clearing it up, references should be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.181.47.68 (talk) 17:42, 20 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Dates

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@ZI Jony Hi, it seems to me your date changes are incorrect, for example what is "No deferral from 2022 to 2003-16" supposed to mean? Spiralfeel (talk) 13:33, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

South Korea situation is wrong

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There is one year restriction for MSM to donate blood in Korea, but the table says that there is no differal. This mistake maybe caused by the insufficient notice of the homepage of related organization in Korea (which the table refers to). 211.52.210.12 (talk) 10:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)Reply