Talk:MTV Unplugged (Mariah Carey EP)

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Entertainment Weekly

A writer for Entertainment Weekly called the show a "vocal Tour de France," ... I hope this is a typo as the expression is Tour de Force. 12.162.122.5 (talk) 15:40, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Your right, it does say that. I guess I assumed that what it said.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 17:48, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned references in MTV Unplugged (Mariah Carey EP)

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Reference named "canada":

• From The Emancipation of Mimi: "The Emancipation of Mimi". Amazon.com (Canada). April 5, 2005. Retrieved June 22, 2011.
• From Mariah Carey (album): "Gold and Platinum – Mariah Carey". Canadian Recording Industry Association. Retrieved 2010-08-14.
• From Butterfly (Mariah Carey song): "Top Singles – Volume 66, No. 13, December 01 1997". RPM. 1997-12-01. Retrieved 2010-09-13. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
• From One Sweet Day: "Top Singles - Volume 62, No. 23, January 22, 1996". RPM. 1996-01-22. Retrieved 2010-09-13. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
• From Fantasy (Mariah Carey song): "Top Singles - Volume 62, No. 16, November 20, 1995". RPM. 1997-09-22. Retrieved 2010-09-13. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
• From Charmbracelet: Williams, John. "Mariah Can't Charm Canadians". Jam!. Canadian Online Explorer (Sun Media). Retrieved August 17, 2011.
• From Butterfly (Mariah Carey album): "Canada's certification-database". Canadian Recording Industry Association. Retrieved 2010-08-25.
• From Forever (Mariah Carey song): "Top Singles - Volume 64, No. 7, September 30 1996". RPM. 1996-09-30. Retrieved 2010-09-13. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
• From Daydream (Mariah Carey album): "CRIA: Certification Results – Mariah Carey". Canadian Recording Industry Association. Retrieved 2010-08-19.
• From Honey (Mariah Carey song): "Top Singles – Volume 66, No. 3, September 22, 1997". RPM. 1997-09-22. Retrieved 2010-09-13. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
• From When You Believe: "Top Singles - Volume 68, No. 14, January 25, 1999". RPM. 1999-01-25. Retrieved 2010-09-13. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 22:52, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Suggested move

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The result of the move request was: not moved. No support, and a quick look at MTV Unplugged (disambiguation) shows that the current disambiguator format is the normal practice. Andrewa (talk) 05:24, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

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MTV Unplugged (Mariah Carey EP) → ? – No other EP called MTV Unplugged, so the current title doesn't work. What would be more accurate - MTV Unplugged (Mariah Carey album), MTV Unplugged (EP) or MTV Unplugged (live album)? Unreal7 (talk) 23:44, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose: Just leave it where it is. It certainly needs disambiguation – see MTV Unplugged (disambiguation), which didn't even have this in it until a few minutes ago. The EP/album distinction isn't sufficient dab since people generally don't know the difference. I generally believe that the names of artists should be included in the titles of articles about their songs and albums. That makes the titles more clear and recognizable, and avoids future maintenance headaches over whether to consider some particular song or album as primary. Including the name of the artist is helpful to readers, the popularity of music is volatile, and new releases often appear with the same names (or strings of lyrics that might be mistaken for a name). WP:NCM / WP:SONGDAB supports this view. —BarrelProof (talk) 06:39, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose - "No other EP called MTV Unplugged, so the current title doesn't work" - sorry, but says who? It works perfectly well. It is the MTV Unplugged Mariah Carey EP, what else would it be, this is how it is described in print sources. No print source calls it "the MTV Unplugged EP by a musician whose name you have to guess" - titles are meant to be informative, not an exercise in disguising the article topic. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:17, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

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Proposed merge with MTV Unplugged +3

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Extreme overlap in the content of these two articles; no need for both. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:55, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

• Merge – Serious content overlapping found. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 03:55, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose one is a music album and one is a music video/movie. Both charted on different charts, both have different sources. Two distinct releases and since they're not stubs there is no style problems that can be made better with a merge. They are two different products albeit they focus on the same thing but if someone releases a album and then a couple of months later on a film/video of the concert and that then charts too that does not mean they are the same product, just relatively same content.
  
  More importantly THE TWO SEPARATE products are both SEPARATELY certified platinum by the RIAA, which should be enough to qualify notability for both releases. GuzzyG (talk) 22:54, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
  • They're not stubs because the two articles virtually repeat themselves. Charting alone does not always warrant a separate article (see WP:NALBUM – "Notability aside, a standalone article is only appropriate when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article;" if you take out all of the content from the video article that is not already in the EP article, the video article would be a stub). Since we have two articles covering a commercial release of the same live performance, and sources generally overlap between the two releases due to their similarity. Chase (talk | contributions) 19:01, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

• Merge - overlap. -- Max24 12:17, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

• Merge and make a separate subsection for it.--PeterGriffin • Talk2Me 04:07, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Been over a year since the discussion was opened. We are good to go and merge it. —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 14:14, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

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