Talk:Major League Baseball All-Star

Need for this article?

I appreciate the good-faith efforts of the article creator to fill a perceived gap in baseball coverage, but I'm wondering whether there will ever be a specific purpose for this article. Normally when we describe a player as an MLB All-Star, we link to that specific year's All-Star Game (ex: for a 1984 All-Star, we would link to the 1984 Major League Baseball All-Star Game).

We have articles for every ASG in history - even for games that were ultimately cancelled. For that reason, I can't see that we would ever want to link to this article, which presumably will only define an All-Star without describing the specific context of the ASG in which the player appeared. With all due respect, I can't think of a purpose that a link to this page would serve (except maybe a redirect) that wouldn't be better served by the relevant year's ASG entry. Thoughts? EricEnfermero (Talk) 03:33, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Of course there is a need and purpose for a separate MLB All-Star article or it would not be here. It is not normal but abnormal to refer to an individual All-Star player as an All-Star Game, at infoboxes or elsewhere; MLBASG article is really an MLBAll-Star Player & MLBAll-Star Game article; MLB All-Star/MLB All-Star Game. YahwehSaves (talk) 19:25, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is actually loaded with articles that are either better covered under other entries or that completely violate WP's guidelines (note how busy WP:AFD is all the time), so "or it would not be here" just isn't an appropriate rationale for keeping an article. We don't ever refer to players as games or games as players, regardless of whether we have a separate All-Star page. We use things like piped links to send readers to the articles that can cover the material with the best context possible. It's difficult to fully discuss All-Stars without the context provided by the MLB ASG article or one of the specific-season ASG articles. Piped links do that job just fine and we're wasting time moving material from the MLB ASG article over to this one, as the other participants in the merge discussion have indicated clearly. EricEnfermero (Talk) 02:57, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

No wonder no one wants to respond here, "I can't see"..., "I can't think"... YahwehSaves (talk) 06:33, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm not intending for those to be insulting or drive people away from responding. I can think, certainly... but I can't think of a situation where this article would provide better context than the ASG articles. If I could think of such a situation (in other words, if someone could explain such a situation to me clearly), I'd drop my objection to this entry. I just haven't seen that happen yet. That's really all I'm saying. EricEnfermero (Talk) 06:37, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

No wonder no one wants to respond here. You are intending to be insulting and disrespectful to me for one. Others can see and think this too. YahwehSaves (talk) 06:56, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

My thoughts on the response pattern: People are responding at the ASG talk page where the proposal started. And that's really the more appropriate place to respond according to WP merge proposal guidelines. I did initially hope that someone would respond on this talk page, but once it goes to the merge proposal, it belongs on the destination talk page. The other thing is that relatively few people are following this entry just because it's a lot newer. I can't imagine that people are coming here, reading this and being rendered unable/unwilling to type a reply. EricEnfermero (Talk) 00:42, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

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Appropriate and useful article

Is this an appropriate and useful article, what do you baseball editors and fans have to say about it? YahwehSaves (talk) 07:03, 10 June 2017 (UTC)