Talk:Maldon
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Market Hill
editI removed this line "Market Hill is the steepest B Road in Essex." as neither O/S get a map or Google maps shows Market Hill as being a B road, I suspect this is now not true — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.67.131.242 (talk) 23:23, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Population in 1086 Incorrect - or at least not backed up by source
editThe article states that "According to the Domesday Book there were 180 townsmen in 1086." and although a few other sites state the same thing, so far as i can tell the domesday book doesn't back that up.
From what I've read, the most accurate information the domesday book can provide is that as of 1086 there were 54 households ( http://domesdaymap.co.uk/place/TL8507/maldon/ )although this doesn't really shed much light on exactly how many townsmen there were. Given that, I suspect the assertion that the domesday book states there were 180 townsmen may be inaccurate.
Bag (talk) 23:05, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
I've updated the wiki page to mention the households (+ citation) and also changed the text to read that the 180 figure is an estimate.
Addition of mention of twinned partner Villeparisis
editHi I've not found out how to edit the Maldon, Essex page but want to point out that Maldon is also twinned with Villeparisis, which is located approximately 38km from the centre of Paris. It has been twinned for now 20 years. This will affect your page List of Twin Towns etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_twin_towns_and_sister_cities_in_the_United_Kingdom
Source: You will see this on the Villeparisis website http://villeparisis.fr/tag/jumelage/ for example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EllenMay (talk • contribs) 08:35, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Requested move 11 August 2018
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The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bradv 14:15, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
– The town in Essex would appear to be the primary topic. It (and the sub topics Maldon (UK Parliament constituency) and Maldon District) got nearly 5x the views of the 2 in Australia [[1]]. The town has a population of 21,875 (the figure in the infobox is only for the parish) and the district has a population of 64,000, compared with 1,513 for Maldon, Victoria (of which is named after the Essex one) and 15 for Maldon, New South Wales (which also appears to be). Crouch, Swale (talk) 06:44, 11 August 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 19:16, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Weak oppose. The community in Essex certainly wins on traffic, and were the community in Victoria a run-of-the-mill town I'd support the move — but I see it actually has the unique claim of being "Australia's first notable town"[2] and the first Australian town declared "historic". It's history would seem to grant the town more enduring notability and educational value than its peers, so under the circumstances I don't think the Essex in Molden quite reaches the bar. ╠╣uw [talk] 10:35, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- That's interesting so the town did have 20000 people however I'd also point out that the English town is also notable for the Battle of Maldon. However considering the current population difference (and being the original) which for the district is greater than London/London, Ontario and the town is greater than Birmingham/Birmingham, Alabama and even Manchester/Manchester, New Hampshire. We could put a direct hatnote to the Victoria one, however I agree that this isn't as clear cut as I though, I now change my implied support to Weak support. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:51, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Support. Arguments all seem reasonable, although I don't see any real problems with current title - many people in UK don't know where Maldon is. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:21, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
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Requested move 21 February 2021
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The result of the move request was: Pages moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 01:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
– I realize I filed another RM 2 and a half years ago that didn't get much input and got a valid point about the one in Victoria being "historic" meaning this one doesn't quite reach the bar however I actually think that given the battle (and the poem) that the Essex town is actually primary by the 2nd criteria. As can be seen the DAB page only list 3[[3]] other topics that aren't directly associated with the town and as noted 2 of these (the 2 places in Australia) are named after this one. The song has a diacritic (though per WP:SMALLDETAILS that probably doesn't distinguish) and probably lacks long-term significance. Google only returns the Essex one (though that's probably partly due to my location) Images also only returns the Essex one (which is probably less biased since although the main Google mainly returns the bank and West Yorkshire town for Halifax, Images returns many results for the one in Canada) and Books only returns the Essex one which again I think is less biased than the main Google (again Halifax in Books doesn't return any results for the bank and returns several results not for the West Yorkshire town). As noted the Essex one has a population of around 22,032 (town) and 64,926 (district) while the 2 in Australia only have 1,278 (according to City Population and Australian Bureau of Statistics for the NSW one). Also note that although I don't support preemptive disambiguation of Australian places its often argued that its common usage to include the state while although people identify Maldon being in Essex its not treated as common usage but solely disambiguation. The other topics associated with the town (such as the district and constituency) fall under WP:DABCONCEPT as they are sub topics of it. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:25, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:20, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- I would add that things like the grain riots, invasion and assiciation with George Washington are also signs of historical significance. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)