Talk:Windows Media Player (2022)

Requested move 13 March 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Windows Media Player (2022). Per WP:BARTENDER. (closed by non-admin page mover) ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 08:15, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

---

Media Player (Windows 11) → ? – This software has now been launched on Windows 10. Does this article need to be renamed, because this software is no longer exclusive to Windows 11. 2401:E180:8830:FA27:6B63:7DDC:16D2:F29F (talk) 10:44, 13 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 13:26, 20 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 18:04, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: to generate a more thorough consensus — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 13:26, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Software has been notified of this discussion. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 13:27, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Microsoft Windows has been notified of this discussion. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 13:27, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

• Comment we could use the type of application binary package (executable type) the thing uses... -- 65.92.244.249 (talk) 07:11, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

  Can you give me an example (?

  what can i change its name to 2401:E180:8863:947E:4E8E:4A7A:2AFF:2690 (talk) 16:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

It appears to be using WinUI/UWP [1][2] which is definitely not what the pre-Metro WMP used. -- 65.92.244.249 (talk) 03:03, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I agree to rename it to Media Player (UWP), but I can't confirm whether it is a real UWP application, but it does look like a UWP application. 61.216.108.177 (talk) 03:11, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't know if this example is appropriate. I think this new Media Player is a bit like Paint 3D, but Microsoft didn't give the new Media Player a better distinguishing name. 61.216.108.177 (talk) 03:23, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I am not sure if the proposed disambiguation terms are recognisable for the average readers to know which Media Player that they are reading about. – robertsky (talk) 03:29, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

good question 2401:E180:8850:2BC2:7733:9AB1:22B9:96DC (talk) 04:17, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I have the same concern; I don't think we really have precedent for distinguishing between articles on Win32 and UWP programs that have similar names. Other programs with Win32 and UWP versions (such as DVD Player (Windows) and Windows Calculator) have one article for both versions due to lack of content; however, the article for the original WMP is already long, and I think combining the two WMP articles would be awkward as I figure most readers would be familiar with the original version rather than the UWP version. CascadeUrbanite (talk) 04:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

At least for now, most users mostly mention Media Player (Windows) is referring to the Win32 version rather than the new UWP version. 61.216.108.177 (talk) 05:37, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't recommend merging the articles on both sides. At present, Microsoft is also separating the two versions instead of directly replacing the old version (Win32) with the new version (UWP)

Unless Microsoft really replaces the old version (Win32) with the new version (UWP) before considering whether to merge the articles on both sides 61.216.108.177 (talk) 05:42, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I just read how the German version is written. They directly named the Win32 version of Media Player as Windows Media Player Legacy 2401:E180:8801:DEEB:CE80:2930:61A:13CF (talk) 09:46, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

"Legacy" is somewhat ambiguous, considering that the original WMP likely has a strong case for holding status as a primary topic among readers. CascadeUrbanite (talk) 23:54, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

yeah... but that's the new name, even not really reported, of the older player now (at least on Windows 11. not sure about Windows 10). – robertsky (talk) 04:11, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes and the renaming is only for Win11 (I'm not sure about Win10) so it shouldn't be used like this. 2401:E180:8833:84C:8208:7F90:39C9:F4F (talk) 05:04, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

There's a case to be made for splitting the old Media Player article in two, from when it switched from the "Media Player Classic" interface to the shiny new one when the icon changed, then the base article would be an overview, with the Win16-32, Win32-64, and UWP eras as subarticles -- 65.92.244.249 (talk) 03:54, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't think old Windows Media Player (including before version 6.4) doesn't need to split.

Just split the new UWP version 2401:E180:8830:84AA:6091:D90A:5B35:AA58 (talk) 04:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, but I don't think it should be used that way. 2401:E180:8833:84C:8208:7F90:39C9:F4F (talk) 05:03, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

• Perhaps something like Media Player (Windows 10–present)? {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 06:09, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support Media Player (Windows 10–present) as proposed by ClydeFranklin. The original chain of discussion doesn't seem to have resulted in any promising potential titles, while the existing article title has the scope issues laid out in the nomination. Thus, the (Windows 10–present) disambiguator seems like the best solution. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:23, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

  I actually think“ present” feels a bit weird.

  But I don't have any good ideas. I originally thought of Media Player (Windows 10/11) although I also think Media Player (UWP) can also 2401:E180:8884:53C3:2C0E:743B:5D8C:4355 (talk) 16:04, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

• We could also consider Windows Media Player (2022) (since "Windows Media Player" is its Microsoft Store name). Though if this fails to gather consensus, I'm fine with ClydeFranklin's suggestion. DFlhb (talk) 19:32, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

  This title works for me as well! The release-year disambiguator seems like a useful option, since there's no telling whether the software will continue to be renewed in new OS versions. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 20:55, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

  I can get behind this proposal. It feels more intuitive and is aligned with how we deal with disambiguating other topics, i.e. biographies by birth year (if the occupation dab isn't sufficient); albums, songs, TV series, films by year of release, etc. – robertsky (talk) 02:39, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

New WMP should be distinguished by app type, not by year

The article is currently titled "Windows Media Player (2022)" where "2022" serves to distinguish the new WMP app from the legacy WMP app, but I think that's too vague of a distinction. The main difference between the two versions of WMP is that the new one is a Microsoft store (UWP) app, and as such it gets updated frequently so a year doesn't really mean much. Therefore I think it'd be more accurate to refer to the new WMP as "Windows Media Player (Microsoft Store app)" or "Windows Media Player (UWP app)". 136.27.11.233 (talk) 07:03, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Windows Media Player which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 15:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)