Talk:FMR Tg500
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removed microcar category
editThis car doesn't appear to meet the criteria on the Microcar page RainbowCrane 07:01, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
That surprises me. How do you mean? David R. Ingham 04:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
It is one of the best examples of microcar. If the criteria on the microcar page do not fit it, they need to be changed.
Mid-rear shows from pictures.
Sports car can be debated on the grounds that the passenger sat behind the driver, but that affected the sales more than it affects the classification. It could maintain high speed for long distances, while the Austin Healey Sprite could not. (From Road and Track.) Adjustable suspension is clearly a sports car feature, as is mid-engine. It was low and had four wheels. David R. Ingham 04:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- My Honda CG 125 motorcycle has adjustable suspension, and a midship engine/rearwheel drive layout, as did my dad's old Daihatsu Hijet microvan (plus his Volvo 240 estate had adjustable suspension, and the Mitsubishi "i" that my mother considered buying at one point is arguably mid-engined - never mind the Smart...). I wouldn't call either/any of those sporty vehicles; the features you describe may be more commonly found on sportscars than utility vehicles, but are by no means exclusive to them. The Messer is quite clearly a bubblecar. A microcar. A reasonably quick one by the standards of the day (78mph isn't going to set anyone's arse on fire these days), and one with four wheels rather than the three that some purists would demand, but a micro/bubblecar all the same. It's based on the same body shell as the 3-wheeled 200cc one and has tandem seating for cryin' out loud. Case dismissed. 77.102.101.220 (talk) 20:19, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
microcar and pricing.
As a derivative of the KR200 is is deemed a microcar by all collectors.
Austin-Healey Sprite was sold for 669 quid in 1958. The conversion rate at that time was 11.72 DM for 1 Pound Sterling. [1] That is a whopping 7840.68 DM without looking at taxes and different waranty schemes that have impact on price.ZwergAlw (talk) 11:35, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
References
Under Performance it compares to the AH Sprite as a similar price. Under specs. it says: PriceĀ : DM 3,650.00 (46% of an Austin-Healey Sprite)..hardly similar.Flight Risk (talk) 21:22, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Move to FMR Tg500
editThe correct name of the car is the FMR Tg500. It is referred to as such by the Bruce Weiner Microcar Museum (which adds a hyphen between the letters and the numbers), the text of the article by Canadian Driver (although the photo caption calls it a Messerschmitt T-500... never seen it called that before), and the history section of Messerschmitt Club Deutschland. The only one of thelisted "external links" that refers to the car as a Messerschmitt TG500 is Serious Wheels, a collection of photographs which shows only a photo and a caption.
It is also referenced as such in the article in Automobile Quarterly, Second quarter, 1973, that I got much of my information for the other Kabinenroller articles from, and which I intend to use in expanding this article.
I propose that this article should be moved to the title "FMR Tg500". Respectfully, SamBlob (talk) 13:19, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
top speed?
editOK, four different figures are given on this page for the top speed: 125, 126, 130km/h (77.6, 78.3, 80.8mph) and 90mph (144.8km/h). Three of them on the one line, even! Given that only one of them - 126km/h - is referenced, and listed as the official one, and there are NO mentions made of different models / trim levels / engines / transmissions / etc, I assume you all won't mind if I correct the rest of them to match this?
(It's also the most believable given the 0-60 time and engine output; if something of this weight + body shape could hit a terminal 90mph, I'd expect it to pass 60 a whole lot quicker. I've owned a 90mph car with a lower drag-to-weight coefficient and it did the sprint in under 20 seconds).77.102.101.220 (talk) 20:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)