Talk:Metro North West & Bankstown Line
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Merge proposal
editSee discussion at Talk:Sydney_Metro#Structure_of_Sydney_Metro_articles_(after_the_metro_opens)Fleet Lists (talk) 22:53, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
If there must be a discussion, it should ideally be in its own right on this talk page, and not buried in a discussion about another topic. I'll simply state that Sydney Metro Northwest is a large enough article as it is, and that Metro North West Line still has a lot of room for development and that mergers/deletions should always be a last resort, not a first resort. Ultimately it seems that the Metro North West Line will be a single service from Tallawong to Bankstown by 2024 and will be renamed to something else as a result – that's ultimately what we should prepare the basic infrastructure of the articles for. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 09:18, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Physical line and redundacy of the articles
editCould it be made on one of the three pages for this metro service if the new-construction North West Line is seamless with the Epping to Chatswood rail link? And easier way to put this is whether you have to transfer between the two at Epping, or if the new North West Line was drilled directly from where the Epping to Chatswood line ends?
I'm also curious if anyone thinks the Sydney Metro Northwest, Metro North West Line, and Sydney Metro articles are redundant? that's not even to mention the Epping to Chatswood rail link still has its own article. That's four articles for the same infrastructure/service, at least the same article with ridiculous overlap between articles. I understand seperate articles for physical infrastructure and services when more than one service uses infrastructure, but that does not appear to be the case, here. In this case, Sydney Metro Northwest and Metro Northwest Line seem incredibly redundant, since no other service uses the line. When the entire thing is done and the Sydney Metro article takes over, it will be even more so. --Criticalthinker (talk) 01:06, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
I wonder if someone can "draw" a diagram for this line. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:26, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
@Jh15s and Liuxinyu970226: I'm unsure as to why this article needs an RDT routemap; this is an article on a railway service, and RDT maps are usually used to illustrate physical railway infrastructure, not the services they run on. The list of stops in the "Stations" sub-section should suffice for this article. I should also note to Jh15s, your efforts to add such a routemap had been objected by Marcnut1996, and attempting to ignore it and starting a potential edit war is most certainly not part of the bold, revert, discuss cycle. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 04:13, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
@PhilipTerryGraham: Sorry, Philip, I don't have any intent of starting an "edit-war". I am still quite new to Wikipedia, and I didn't know that adding a route map had been rejected upon in the Talk page. It's easy to get a little confused with one article being for the physical rail line itself and another for the rail service, and I'm sorry I didn't check the Talk page before adding a route map. I certainly don't want to start any grudges with anyone here, and I apologise for any inconvenience or anger this may have caused. I will definitely keep in mind that I should check the Talk page for anything to consider before adding anything in future. Sorry. Jh15s (talk) 04:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
@PhilipTerryGraham: I've also added a note to the template description that the template shouldn't be used on this article. That will prevent others from making the same mistake I did. Jh15s (talk) 04:43, 23 May 2020 (UTC) @Liuxinyu970226: As mentioned before, this article is about the rail service itself, not the rail line, so that's why there is no route map (this is very likely to confuse others who don't know). A route map is available on the Sydney Metro Northwest page. Jh15s (talk) 04:43, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Jh15s:In Sydney Metro Northwest it is included in the the Infobox in a hidden state which it was also when you added it previously to this page. But the way it was added in this article on this occasion in the middle of the page was not acceptable and I was about to delete it for that reason when it was deleted by another editor.Fleet Lists (talk) 04:58, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
@Fleet Lists:Before I knew about the rule regarding route maps with the two pages, I attempted to add the template to the top of this page because the Template with the list of NSW rail services was already occupying the infobox. The Template, for some reason, was too large and I'm sorry for any inconvenience caused. I'm pretty sure another editor noticed it before you and deleted my flawed edit. Jh15s (talk) 05:07, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
What is the final name?
editAfter the central section opens next year and the Bankstown conversion the year after open, with the project being called City and Southwest, will this form two lines that meet in the middle or has it been confirmed that the whole line will be called Metro North West, even to Bankstown? Difficultly north (talk) Time, department skies 07:57, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Difficultly north: I don't think a name has been officially announced yet so we'll cross that bridge of changing the names if/when it happens. Fork99 (talk) 09:55, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- The name has been announced now: the combined line will be the M1. Source: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-name-revealed-for-sydney-s-metro-line-beneath-harbour-and-cbd-20240430-p5fnlr.html Jpatokal (talk) 00:06, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, based on that, I've created the redirect M1 (Sydney Metro). Difficultly north (talk) Time, department skies 16:33, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- According to the map released, the full name is actually M1 Metro North West & Bankstown Line, I've already created that redirect along with Metro North West & Bankstown Line and North West & Bankstown Line. Fork99 (talk) 00:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Since the line has opened today, I'm going to put in a WP:RM/TR request to move the article as I already created a redirect from the new name. Fork99 (talk) 20:19, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Nobody is going to use the fully name for this. Why not just M1 (Sydney Metro), which is/will be the WP:COMMONNAME? Jpatokal (talk) 00:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- It'd be inconsistent with all other Transport for NSW related article names - if M1 is considered the common name, then it should be done for the T1, T2, etc as well. Fork99 (talk) 01:31, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Nobody is going to use the fully name for this. Why not just M1 (Sydney Metro), which is/will be the WP:COMMONNAME? Jpatokal (talk) 00:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Since the line has opened today, I'm going to put in a WP:RM/TR request to move the article as I already created a redirect from the new name. Fork99 (talk) 20:19, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- According to the map released, the full name is actually M1 Metro North West & Bankstown Line, I've already created that redirect along with Metro North West & Bankstown Line and North West & Bankstown Line. Fork99 (talk) 00:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, based on that, I've created the redirect M1 (Sydney Metro). Difficultly north (talk) Time, department skies 16:33, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- The name has been announced now: the combined line will be the M1. Source: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-name-revealed-for-sydney-s-metro-line-beneath-harbour-and-cbd-20240430-p5fnlr.html Jpatokal (talk) 00:06, 5 May 2024 (UTC)