Talk:Michael D. Cohen (actor)
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editI placed an "External links and IMDb maintenance tag on the article because it is a BLP sourced only from an "official" site, that is a primary source as well as likely considered self-published, and IMDb that is not appropriate as a reference, being user-generated, and certainly not as a references from an "External link" being apparently used as a "General reference". Otr500 (talk) 20:04, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- There is nothing wrong with the 'External links' section as it is currently at the article, so the {{External links}} tag is just plum the wrong tag – you use that one when, for example, there are 20 external links instead of 1–3. {{BLP IMDb refimprove}} is redundant when {{BLP unsourced}} is already at the article. So neither tag you added is correct. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:10, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- As there are no cites there is no way to know if the info is only from IMDb. The {{BLP unsourced}} is sufficient. The external links section meets WikiP's criteria. MarnetteD|Talk 20:21, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- The IMDb site states: "Michael D. Cohen is currently starring on Nickelodeon's hit series "Henry Danger,"" and the article states "Now he can be seen regularly as the character Schwoz Schwartz on Nickelodeon's hit sit-com Henry Danger". The "official" website states "Michael is a series regular playing “Schwoz” – a genius of indiscernible origin.". The wording of the article and IMDb ("currently" and "Now") makes it clear that IMDb is used. That just seems like wikilawyering that "we can't tell" if a wording is in one or the other because it lacks inline citations. If there are two or more "External links" used as sources only (or is the article still unsourced) we can claim some confusion is a better reason of keeping a status quo. The policy (if it really mattered) on verifiability states, "All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed.", which should make the entire "As there are no cites there is no way to know if the info is only from IMDb." moot.
- The reason for sourcing and inline citations is so that others can tell where material was sourced from. Content "As a fan of Carol Burnett and the other actors on TV's The Carol Burnett Show," is not found in any listed source but under the "See full bio" link it states "Cohen knew he wanted to be an actor since the age of 4, watching "The Carol Burnett Show. He was inspired by her ability to make people laugh and come together through entertainment." I suppose being inspired and being a fan can be equated but the information is sourced through IMDb, not under the "official" site, and apparently there is either original research thrown in, unsourced BLP content, or IMDb sourcing.
- None of this will matter if some deem keeping the article out of an IMDb maintenance category is more important than the site being used as a reference and from an "External links" section. The goal is article improvement and since the subject is notable it may be felt there is apparently no real need to follow any policies and guidelines. I don't see reverting maintenance tag improving an article. LOL-- You guys can argue it anyway that makes you feel good though. Otr500 (talk) 22:12, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- No, the point of the {{BLP unsourced}} tag is exactly that this article contains no inline cites at all, and desperately needs them. A {{BLP unsourced}} tag is more likely to encourage the addition of inline sources to the article than a {{BLP IMDb refimprove}} will. Meanwhile, the addition of the {{External links}} tag was just plum not correct, as I pointed out above. And accusing the two editors who pointed out your mistakes of wikilawyering strikes me as the essence of assuming bad faith. Bottom line: If you think any content from this article is coming directly from IMDb, it should actually be removed (as per WP:RS/IMDb and WP:Citing IMDb) – that has nothing to do with adding erroneous or extraneous maintenance tags. The other point is that the lack of inline sources point in the direction of this subject failing WP:BASIC, so an article tag that arguably should be added is a {{Notability}} tag. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:54, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- As there are no cites there is no way to know if the info is only from IMDb. The {{BLP unsourced}} is sufficient. The external links section meets WikiP's criteria. MarnetteD|Talk 20:21, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-Protected edit request on 18 March 2024
editMichael D. Cohen was also credited as a director in 5 danger force episodes, starting with the episode “Villains Night” which aired on April 18, 2020. He was also credited as a writer in the Danger Force episode “Manlee Man”, which aired on June 19, 2021. Please add those things to the filmography as well. Thanks. 2600:1702:2340:3020:105E:8B45:802A:1EDF (talk) 23:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)