Talk:Mill River (Connecticut)

article name for this one of 3 Mill Rivers in CT

I noticed this is one of three Mill Rivers in Connecticut and think it pretty obviously should not then be named "Mill River (Connecticut)". After reviewing the article and others listed at Mill River disambiguation page I moved this one to "Mill River (New Haven County, Connecticut)" as it appears from info in the article to be probably wholly in New Haven County, and certainly primarily located in New Haven County / primarily known as being in New Haven County. Another editor reverted me in this edit and i returned to move it again. Is there some better name for this article? It certainly should not be "Mill River (Connecticut)". --doncram (talk) 22:32, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

When do you intend to repair all of the links that broke when you changed the name of the article? There are a bunch of articles that linked to this article under the name Mill River (Connecticut), referring to this particular river, that now are double-redirect links to the disambiguation page Mill River. (Moreover, these are not the only double-redirects to Mill River.)--Orlady (talk) 00:06, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Moreover, Mill River doesn't even link to Mill River (New Haven County, Connecticut). --Orlady (talk) 00:13, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

To Polaron, who abruptly moved this article to "Mill River (Quinnipiac River)", I think as a suggestion, if you had suggested it and discussed it, that would have merit. It seems rude to move it abruptly with no discussion, given that the name of the article was in some play and I had even opened discussion here.

To Orlady -- You are just being rude, I guess; I can't understand anything much more than that, about you in general and your apparent wish to find fault with whatever edits of mine that you can. Your previous move of the page was rude. Now your comments are rude. To respond more particularly to your complaints above, I would have been perfectly glad to fix all the linking articles, once this is stable, but your already rude/abrupt behavior had suggested this article name was not stable. So it would be appropriate to wait and sort out the naming issue with you here, first. You apparently decline to comment about the name. Or, am I to understand your complaint that i did not update all the links that should point to this article, to "Mill River (New Haven County, Connecticut)" as your assent that that was a good name choice? I doubt i should make such an assumption. So your complaint is that i did not waste more time already? And, the article name has been proven not to be stable by the subsequent move by Polaron, who apparently at least agrees with me that "Mill River (Connecticut)" is not the appropriate name for the article. It is NOT a pleasure doing business with you. --doncram (talk) 02:06, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Silly of me to have labored under the impression that it's good practice (and good etiquette -- i.e., the opposite of "rude") when moving pages to fix double redirects that are created -- and particularly not to move pages in a manner that causes links that formerly pointed to an article to point to a disambiguation page. Thanks to Polaron for cleaning up the mess that was created when this page was moved and the pages former name was redirected to Mill River; I was too angry at you to take it upon myself to clean up after you, Doncram.

Polaron's renaming of the article (to Mill River (Quinnipiac River)) was generally consistent with standard Wikipedia practice under which rivers are disambiguated by the name of the water body to which they are tributary. Unfortunately, however, the name he chose is wrong, because this river is not tributary to the Quinnipiac. Both the Mill River and the Quinnipiac River drain into New Haven Harbor, as separate rivers. Neither this river (whose article I edited as early as 2006) nor the Mill River in Fairfield (an article that I created) are tributary to larger rivers; both flow into Long Island Sound. Considering that there are two Mill Rivers in Connecticut (the third one is merely an alternate name for part of the Rippowam River), and that this is by far the longer of the two (the other is wholly contained in the town of Fairfield), it still seems to me to be perfectly reasonable to name this one "Mill River (Connecticut)" (the name it had from October 2006) until less than 24 hours ago) and disambiguate the two Connecticut Mill Rivers with hatnotes. --Orlady (talk) 05:29, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

After re-reviewing Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers#Naming, and in view of the fact that it does not flow into the Quinnipiac River, I am renaming this to Mill River (Connecticut), as this is clearly the most important of the "Mill River"s in the state. --Orlady (talk) 21:06, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, technically the Mill River does not officially drain into the Quinnipiac. However, the portion between the river confluence and the bridges of US 1 and I-95 are sometimes also considered colloquially as being part of the Quinnipiac River, as exemplified by the I-95 bridge being called the Quinnipiac River Bridge and is not thought of as a bridge over New Haven Harbor. So while "Quinnipiac River" is a sufficient disambiguator, I do agree that this is the most important "Mill River" in Connecticut. --Polaron | Talk 21:09, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

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