Talk:Moi Delgado

Requested move 12 January 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Pages moved to Moisés Delgado, Moisés Rodríguez and Moisés García per consensus on alternative proposal. – wbm1058 (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

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• Moi (footballer) → Moi (footballer, born 1994)
• Moisés Rodríguez Laínez → Moi (footballer, born 1997)
• Moisés García León → Moisés (footballer, born 1971)

– WP:COMMONNAME of former footballer is just "Moi", no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC so should be disambiguated further and Moi (footballer) should redirect to DAB at Moi. The latter footballer is exclusively known as "Moisés". Disambiguate to standard at WP:NCSP. Almost all references on respective pages confirm these as most used names for the footballers. Ortizesp (talk) 06:20, 12 January 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. — Twassman [Talk·Contribs] 01:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)—Relisting. Jerm (talk) 18:35, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support 1st no case for a PDAB since views for the 1994 footballer are 68 compared with 35 for the 1971 one and 12 for the 1997 one[[1]]. No comment on the others per WP:NATURAL. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:10, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 12:41, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose and move articles to Moisés Delgado, Moisés Rodríguez and Moisés García respectively. Most Spanish players have a nickname that is usually their forename; that does not mean it is the COMMONNAME or that it should be the article location. Can you imagine the carnage of trying to disambiguate 50 footballers all called Fernando?! As such we should use 'forename surname' as the format wherever possible and with some minor exceptions. GiantSnowman 12:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support this alternative.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:10, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support original proposal per WP:COMMONNAME. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:29, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose original, support alt per Giant Snowman's reasoning. (t · c) buidhe 21:04, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
• Agree with Buidhe and GiantSnowman that the alternative is better. Dicklyon (talk) 01:20, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
• Comment why hasn't this been closed and moved? Everyone, including myself as original proposer, is happy with User:GiantSnowman's sugestion.--Ortizesp (talk) 01:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@Crouch, Swale: has not... GiantSnowman 09:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: I'm fine with either proposal its just that we shouldn't generally have partially disambiguated pages. Per the nom it seems that there are multiple footballers called "Moi" such as Moisés Rodríguez Laínez so this title is a PDAB even if Moisés Rodríguez Laínez can be naturally disambiguated. Its perfectly normal for when a proposal to involve 2 different issues (one disambiguation and the other common name) for someone to only have an opinion on one of them but not support or oppose the other so yes there is indeed clear consensus for you're alternative proposal. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:51, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.