Talk:Muhammad IV of Granada

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The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 18:17, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that according to Muslim sources, Muhammad IV of Granada was assassinated due to his alliance with Sultan Abu al-Hasan, while Christian sources say it was due to his closeness to King Alfonso XI?
  Source: "Ibn Khaldun states that the Banu Abi l-'Ula family "disapproved of the alliance of the king [Muhammad IV] with [the Marinid Sultan] Abu l-Hasan and formed a conspiracy that ended in the assassination of the sovereign". Fernández-Puertas 1997 p.7. "Ibn Khaldun sees the rebels as troubled by Muhammad's Marinid contacts, whereas the Castilian Chronicle explains his downfall as due to his Castilian contacts. Just before his death, Muhammad had been in negotation with Alfonso XI, and they had banqueted together, and exchanged presents." (Harvey p.188)

• Reviewed: Boophis fayi

5x expanded by HaEr48 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:35, 22 May 2020 (UTC).

• Date, size, refs, hook, neutrality, copyvio spotcheck, QPQ, all GTG. Nicely done! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:40, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Cplakidas (talk · contribs) 20:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Will start reviewing over the following days. Constantine ✍ 20:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Cplakidas, and looking forward to your review. In case you feel a bit of deja vu, some passages were taken from Uthman ibn Abi al-Ula which you expanded a while ago :) HaEr48 (talk) 21:17, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   AGF on offline sources and comprehensiveness, but from my own knowledge of the period, the article appears to be complete, certainly for GA level.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

• Did some minor copyedits here and there.

  Thank you HaEr48 (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

• was the Nasrid ruler of the Emirate of Granada in Al-Andalus on the Iberian Peninsula from 1325 to 1333. He was the son of Ismail I and the sixth sultan of the dynasty. He acceded to the throne at ten years old when his father was assassinated. May I make a suggestion to compartmentalize the information somewhat differently: was the ruler of the Emirate of Granada in Al-Andalus on the Iberian Peninsula from 1325 to 1333. He was the sixth sultan of the Nasrid dynasty, succeeding to the throne at the age of ten, when his father, Ismail I, was assassinated.

  Done as suggested. HaEr48 (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

• stopping food exports to Granada as agreed, as had been agreed

  Done. HaEr48 (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

• I would also add to the lede that on the occasion of the civil war, Muhammad began to take active role in government, despite his youth.

  Done. HaEr48 (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

• Link the first occurrence of AH to Anno Hegirae

  Done. HaEr48 (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

• the young king's court recommend changing to sultan for consistency

  Done and also changed the subsection title. HaEr48 (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

• According to near-contemporary historian Ibn Khaldun, they killed him because the Banu Abi al-Ula family considered the Marinid sultans their enemy, because the sultans had exiled them to Granada and considered them political dissidents this may be a bit hard to understand for the uninvolved reader; perhaps something like "According to near-contemporary historian Ibn Khaldun, Muhammad IV was killed because of his Marinid alliance: the Banu Abi al-Ula family had been exiled to Granada as political dissidents by the Marinids, and considered the latter as their enemies"

  Done something like you suggested, and simplified further. Please take a look and let me know what you think. HaEr48 (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

• buried near al-munya al-sayyid in Malaga the significance of this is unclear; the term should also be briefly explained somehow.

  Done. HaEr48 (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

• Add location to all books in the References

  Done. HaEr48 (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

• Granada and the surrounding kingdoms, 14th century in the caption, I strongly recommend adding the precise date, since borders did not remain stable over the entire century

  Done. I agree, but in this case the border is approximate (the border thickness does not assert any specific borders). HaEr48 (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

• File:4th-Siege-of-Gibraltar-map.jpg needs sources (not a GA requirement, but would be good to have for A-class/FA) and some explanation what the flags are supposed to represent (I know, but the average reader won't)

  Added legend for the flags. As for the source, I added a WP:RX for the book likely used by the image creator, but it may take a while. HaEr48 (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

  @Cplakidas: Now added references for the image (See its Commons page). I believe I have now responded to all your comments. HaEr48 (talk) 02:48, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

@HaEr48: These are my comments from my first reading of the article. Overall, as usual, a quality job. Once these are addressed, I will have another read, and then pass. Constantine ✍ 10:31, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Cplakidas, thank you for your review and feedback, as always. I have responded above. HaEr48 (talk) 02:34, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

@Cplakidas:, gentle reminder? HaEr48 (talk) 14:20, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi HaEr48, will have a look tomorrow at the latest :) Constantine ✍ 14:29, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

@HaEr48: I've had another read-through, and can't find anything missing. Did some minor tweaks. Since this looks good, I am happy to pass it now. Looking forward to seeing it at FAC :). Constantine ✍ 13:07, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

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